Dawn O’Porter

But you just sit back and support someone like this and watch what they create and the impact that they have.

Gemma's written this unbelievable book that's out in August, and I'm three-quarters of the way through at the moment.

it is one of those books where genuinely, if everyone in the world read it, the world would be a better place.

Like it is just beautiful and stunning.

And when you've got a friend that's that clever, how dare you get, you know, how dare you ruin it?

You just, what's that game where they, that weird game, which isn't even a game, I can't believe they even play at the Winter Olympics for the like,

Wiping the floor.

So that's it.

Yes.

That's what it's like when you've got a friend like Gem.

You just keep doing that so she can just keep kind of going.

And you're the same with me.

I think when you get to our age as well, I mean, I'm a lot older than Gem, but as soon as you kind of pass 40, you've got kids...

these are the only people you should have in your life.

It's like this, you know, we've all had, and I've not been a brilliant friend to women in the past, absolutely no angel there at all.

And I've had friends who aren't brilliant to me, but this kind of, this very natural cleansing happens the older that you get.

As it should, your circle gets smaller and way stronger.

And I feel like that's happened really, really clearly with us, especially since you've become a mum as well.

Yep, it does.

Like, I mean, my life through food has been ridiculous.