Dax Shepard

So it has 30 plus years of kind of stagnation.

Yes.

Yeah, it's hard to pinpoint what the catalyst to Zach's kind of crazy story is.

But the thing that to me feels most relevant is I don't want to call it income inequality simply because his family was of means.

In the book, The Broken Ladder talks about like these fights that happen between first class and coach.

And what's funny is it's not a story of the haves and the have nots because the people in coach.

The have and the have mores.

So this is like a very extreme case of this.

So he's entering with a little bit of shame of having not got into that.

And now he's seen absolutely fabulous wealth.

Kids with private planes and cars and all this stuff.

And then simultaneously, he's starting to consume media.

I think some people will read this book and they'll want to point a finger at War Dogs and The Wolf of Wall Street, probably because of my industry.

I'm not as inclined to go down that road.

I think all adolescents find these movies.

But at any rate...

I think that's really a profound experience to feel dead broke among all these people.

Yeah, it was a new money thing.

It was a bad look.

In particular, he wanted to be Jonah Hill, who was like the grotius of the pair.