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Dax

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How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

stuff compounds and it's like so hard to really imagine the power of that it's i'm sure you think about you know where you guys were like seven years ago and like how difficult it was to do anything and then now you're just like what were we doing back then like why are we going so slowly you can't even like understand how much things have compounded how much easier it's gotten uh like for us when we went from the v2 to v3

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

stuff compounds and it's like so hard to really imagine the power of that it's i'm sure you think about you know where you guys were like seven years ago and like how difficult it was to do anything and then now you're just like what were we doing back then like why are we going so slowly you can't even like understand how much things have compounded how much easier it's gotten uh like for us when we went from the v2 to v3

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

that was after several years of like, kind of like rotating around the space and like understanding it, like not really getting the primitives exactly right. Then I think we got the primitives right. And just in the past six months, like we've done so much more than we've basically done in the entire history of the company. Cause everything now is set up for us to go do. And this stuff is,

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

that was after several years of like, kind of like rotating around the space and like understanding it, like not really getting the primitives exactly right. Then I think we got the primitives right. And just in the past six months, like we've done so much more than we've basically done in the entire history of the company. Cause everything now is set up for us to go do. And this stuff is,

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

just takes a long time um yeah i was surprised at the gpu stuff too i'm like uh like i was kind of surprised how fast all the ai stuff came together um given that like crazy i mean all the is has been really crazy so um but yeah i mean that must be the result of like all the work before then

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

just takes a long time um yeah i was surprised at the gpu stuff too i'm like uh like i was kind of surprised how fast all the ai stuff came together um given that like crazy i mean all the is has been really crazy so um but yeah i mean that must be the result of like all the work before then

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, that's something we should talk about. I think that was maybe one of the more I mean, you guys said it for Friday, so, you know, is what the containers platform stuff was one of the bigger surprises, I guess. Because it now puts Cloudflare. In a completely different zone, I think for a while.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, that's something we should talk about. I think that was maybe one of the more I mean, you guys said it for Friday, so, you know, is what the containers platform stuff was one of the bigger surprises, I guess. Because it now puts Cloudflare. In a completely different zone, I think for a while.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

everyone was kind of able to understand it as this is like a new way of building things. And if you like agree with this new way or that you want to commit to this new way, then you can go build with Cloudflare stuff. But then introduction of containers means almost any kind of way of building can work. So we did a similar shift to where we started really serverless focused.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

everyone was kind of able to understand it as this is like a new way of building things. And if you like agree with this new way or that you want to commit to this new way, then you can go build with Cloudflare stuff. But then introduction of containers means almost any kind of way of building can work. So we did a similar shift to where we started really serverless focused.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And there is like a large growing number of very big, serious companies that build that way.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And there is like a large growing number of very big, serious companies that build that way.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

but it is an uphill battle and that you're trying to like change the habits or like here's like a new way of doing things here you go learn all this stuff and you agree with it and you go do it uh and we shifted to now like we've done that for a while so like there wasn't much to do there anymore and now we started to support container stuff more and it's a totally different experience it's like

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

but it is an uphill battle and that you're trying to like change the habits or like here's like a new way of doing things here you go learn all this stuff and you agree with it and you go do it uh and we shifted to now like we've done that for a while so like there wasn't much to do there anymore and now we started to support container stuff more and it's a totally different experience it's like

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

There's no one to like explain anything. There's nothing to explain. There's nothing to teach. It's just this is the way most the world operates and they just like use it and they get it. And it's much, much less of a battle. So I think it's going to be interesting to see when Cloudflare containers comes out. I think something similar will happen, obviously, on a much larger scale.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

There's no one to like explain anything. There's nothing to explain. There's nothing to teach. It's just this is the way most the world operates and they just like use it and they get it. And it's much, much less of a battle. So I think it's going to be interesting to see when Cloudflare containers comes out. I think something similar will happen, obviously, on a much larger scale.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I think the main it's more like if it just feels different. So what feels different about it is I suddenly feel like I'm talking to a thousand X more people. And I think that's just what happens when you break into a bigger market. I realized before I felt like I was talking to a lot of people. There's a lot of people that build stuff in a serverless way.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I think the main it's more like if it just feels different. So what feels different about it is I suddenly feel like I'm talking to a thousand X more people. And I think that's just what happens when you break into a bigger market. I realized before I felt like I was talking to a lot of people. There's a lot of people that build stuff in a serverless way.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I didn't really feel like, you know, it was necessarily small. But the reality is the people that want to deploy containers, it's just so much bigger and it's hard to even fathom. And we're seeing people from other communities that have nothing to do with JavaScript. They're putting stuff together. Someone's working on a Laravel setup with SST and our container stuff.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I didn't really feel like, you know, it was necessarily small. But the reality is the people that want to deploy containers, it's just so much bigger and it's hard to even fathom. And we're seeing people from other communities that have nothing to do with JavaScript. They're putting stuff together. Someone's working on a Laravel setup with SST and our container stuff.