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Dax

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How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And that's just so outside the range of... anything that we generally think about so yeah the surprise has just been like wow there's like a lot of people out there i feel like now we're finally seeing like everyone and our whole thing has always been progressive disclosure which is we don't want you to have to like

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

And that's just so outside the range of... anything that we generally think about so yeah the surprise has just been like wow there's like a lot of people out there i feel like now we're finally seeing like everyone and our whole thing has always been progressive disclosure which is we don't want you to have to like

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

learn so much up front or like change it we want to give you an incremental path to using our stuff uh and over time we need to design a progressive disclosure thing where like you start to learn the things that are useful to know and you start to get more advanced and you start to use other things that you necessarily didn't know coming in uh and i kind of see containers in the same way i think based on probably some of your team and based on that blog post i think probably similar where

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

learn so much up front or like change it we want to give you an incremental path to using our stuff uh and over time we need to design a progressive disclosure thing where like you start to learn the things that are useful to know and you start to get more advanced and you start to use other things that you necessarily didn't know coming in uh and i kind of see containers in the same way i think based on probably some of your team and based on that blog post i think probably similar where

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Doing a container option means it's a no-brainer for a lot of people. Existing workload, existing way of doing things, they can just go use it.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

Doing a container option means it's a no-brainer for a lot of people. Existing workload, existing way of doing things, they can just go use it.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

But now they also have the ability to pull in these other serverless things here and there, which even for me, I'm working on something right now that is going to be container-based, but I need to be able to spin up a lot of headless browsers, and that makes way more sense to do in a serverless way.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

But now they also have the ability to pull in these other serverless things here and there, which even for me, I'm working on something right now that is going to be container-based, but I need to be able to spin up a lot of headless browsers, and that makes way more sense to do in a serverless way.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

So like being able to mix the two and giving people the ability to do that, I think, you know, over time we've just realized like the more options we give people, like it's just, but we'll start to do funny things with it that you don't, that you don't imagine. I think you'll, you'll see that too.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

So like being able to mix the two and giving people the ability to do that, I think, you know, over time we've just realized like the more options we give people, like it's just, but we'll start to do funny things with it that you don't, that you don't imagine. I think you'll, you'll see that too.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I think you'll see people mixing containers and durable objects and all that stuff together in really unexpected ways.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

I think you'll see people mixing containers and durable objects and all that stuff together in really unexpected ways.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

It's a very long detailed article, yeah.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

It's a very long detailed article, yeah.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

it's a lot more actually interesting and opens up more stuff than people think yeah it's funny when i told frank uh about the cloudflare container stuff the first thing he asked was uh oh can we run cicd there because we we have a cicd product and it's like it's weird like ci is such a commodity but it's annoyingly difficult in a lot of ways because uh there's just these funny traffic patterns with it too like sometimes because of uh the panda bot or whatever like the github thing

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

it's a lot more actually interesting and opens up more stuff than people think yeah it's funny when i told frank uh about the cloudflare container stuff the first thing he asked was uh oh can we run cicd there because we we have a cicd product and it's like it's weird like ci is such a commodity but it's annoyingly difficult in a lot of ways because uh there's just these funny traffic patterns with it too like sometimes because of uh the panda bot or whatever like the github thing

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

It has a schedule and it'll like end up triggering a bunch of our customers CI stuff. So we'll just get like a burst of a bunch of jobs randomly and being able to like one CI needs to run anything because people can do literally anything in their CI. You have no idea what they're going to put in there. So you can only use compute. That's like very flexible. But like.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

It has a schedule and it'll like end up triggering a bunch of our customers CI stuff. So we'll just get like a burst of a bunch of jobs randomly and being able to like one CI needs to run anything because people can do literally anything in their CI. You have no idea what they're going to put in there. So you can only use compute. That's like very flexible. But like.

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

making sure you have capacity to handle like peak versus you know what your average load is uh especially when it's not predictable yeah it sucks we actually ended up deciding for like the next version the more newer version of our product we run ci inside the end users accounts at least for aws because just trying to manage like a centralized ci service it's just so much so much work um but yeah something like this would be super helpful because there's not a lot of options for

How About Tomorrow?
Rita Kozlov on Building In Public, Cloudflare's Birthday Week, and How Long Software Actually Takes

making sure you have capacity to handle like peak versus you know what your average load is uh especially when it's not predictable yeah it sucks we actually ended up deciding for like the next version the more newer version of our product we run ci inside the end users accounts at least for aws because just trying to manage like a centralized ci service it's just so much so much work um but yeah something like this would be super helpful because there's not a lot of options for