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on-demand containers that you can just that can kind of like run anything yeah there's yeah so i think there's gonna be a lot of use cases that it opens up and again i agree with you that doing all these cool like next-gen stuff does require rethinking how you build things and adopting a new architecture and a lot of that is service related i think a lot of discussion never even gets that far it gets stuck on like really basic things like pricing or like do you need scale it's kind of the tired things we see all the time but

on-demand containers that you can just that can kind of like run anything yeah there's yeah so i think there's gonna be a lot of use cases that it opens up and again i agree with you that doing all these cool like next-gen stuff does require rethinking how you build things and adopting a new architecture and a lot of that is service related i think a lot of discussion never even gets that far it gets stuck on like really basic things like pricing or like do you need scale it's kind of the tired things we see all the time but

That's not really the reason I even shifted there. It's funny. I think the thing you said about Kubernetes reminded me of this. So for a long time, anytime I built something, I would just get generic compute and I would throw Kubernetes on it and then schedule everything through there. That's how I built everything. And what was nice about it was I never have to learn anything new.

That's not really the reason I even shifted there. It's funny. I think the thing you said about Kubernetes reminded me of this. So for a long time, anytime I built something, I would just get generic compute and I would throw Kubernetes on it and then schedule everything through there. That's how I built everything. And what was nice about it was I never have to learn anything new.

Like I knew that I can throw anywhere, whether it's AWS, GCP, whatever. Then I joined this team. And for the first time in my career, because I'd always worked either on my own companies or early stage,

Like I knew that I can throw anywhere, whether it's AWS, GCP, whatever. Then I joined this team. And for the first time in my career, because I'd always worked either on my own companies or early stage,

had a dedicated devops person so it wasn't my job to figure that out cool totally fine with that uh and i was looking at what he was doing and he was using uh aws ecs fargate which is like a managed container offering so you're not doing any of the work just you just have a container and you pay for it and i asked him like this is like three times as expensive why are we like why are we doing this versus the thing that i've always done

had a dedicated devops person so it wasn't my job to figure that out cool totally fine with that uh and i was looking at what he was doing and he was using uh aws ecs fargate which is like a managed container offering so you're not doing any of the work just you just have a container and you pay for it and i asked him like this is like three times as expensive why are we like why are we doing this versus the thing that i've always done

And he said something to me that like totally changed the way that I looked at everything. And I felt so stupid for not thinking about it this way. He was like, so at the time we were actually building out a payment processing system. So we had to go through all of the compliance stuff for it. He was like,

And he said something to me that like totally changed the way that I looked at everything. And I felt so stupid for not thinking about it this way. He was like, so at the time we were actually building out a payment processing system. So we had to go through all of the compliance stuff for it. He was like,

Yeah, you're talking, he was like, you're basically describing like a $15 a month per container versus like a $45 a month container situation. In the $45 a month container situation, we get to go tell all the compliance people that we don't have access to the servers. And that is literally worth like tens of thousands of dollars.

Yeah, you're talking, he was like, you're basically describing like a $15 a month per container versus like a $45 a month container situation. In the $45 a month container situation, we get to go tell all the compliance people that we don't have access to the servers. And that is literally worth like tens of thousands of dollars.

So like not have to be like, here's how we're hardening, like that whole thing. Right. Um, so that, like you said, like comparing the five hour VPS thing, it's not really about the little cost of the compute. It's about.

So like not have to be like, here's how we're hardening, like that whole thing. Right. Um, so that, like you said, like comparing the five hour VPS thing, it's not really about the little cost of the compute. It's about.

security questionnaires you get when you go what talk to like a big enterprise company it's about like the compliance stuff being able to say like i don't have access to any of that stuff like eliminates so many of the questions so much of the burden and that it felt silly for me to like bring up like a 30 difference you know in the face of that um yeah ever since then that's when i start to open my mind to okay like if i do more serverless stuff

security questionnaires you get when you go what talk to like a big enterprise company it's about like the compliance stuff being able to say like i don't have access to any of that stuff like eliminates so many of the questions so much of the burden and that it felt silly for me to like bring up like a 30 difference you know in the face of that um yeah ever since then that's when i start to open my mind to okay like if i do more serverless stuff

All of these problems I've been dealing with my whole career suddenly got. And there's a lot of things like that that go away that I don't think get talked about a lot.

All of these problems I've been dealing with my whole career suddenly got. And there's a lot of things like that that go away that I don't think get talked about a lot.

Yeah, and the other thing is, and you talked about this a little bit earlier, when your team size grows, it's just always a negative thing. There's benefits to it, but there's always a permanent negative thing when there's just more people involved.

Yeah, and the other thing is, and you talked about this a little bit earlier, when your team size grows, it's just always a negative thing. There's benefits to it, but there's always a permanent negative thing when there's just more people involved.