Dean Muhtadi

And I know what it's like to be on the line and get no credit.

And, you know, you're kind of a grunt, and that's your role.

And then you got Trav, who's one of the most prolific players, very different personalities.

Um, I've never met Jason.

I've always wanted to hang out with that guy, you know, shoot the crap with them, maybe party with them or whatever.

I do know Trav.

He's, he's a good dude.

Um, but yeah, man, I agree with you.

They just seem so different, uh, you know, but I don't know.

Maybe that's why they have a good podcast.

They can bounce off each other a little bit.

I would say so.

I mean, you really got nothing to lose.

And I guess if you're a coach, I mean, you...

Got nothing to hold back.

You're not saving any of your game plans for later in the season.

So you might as well dump it all out there unless you're trying to take the L's and get a better draft pick or something to that extent.

But yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Maybe some teams, some players get caught up trying to handle the pressure and they start to falter because of it.

And, you know, if that pressure is removed and they can just go out there, have fun, who cares?