Dean W. Ball

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · AGI Lab Transparency Requirements & Whistleblower Protections, with Dean W. Ball & Daniel Kokotajlo · 12 Nov 2024 podcast

But nonetheless, you're talking about enormous amounts of capabilities that I think it's extremely important that human beings have access to this, that all human beings have access to this, and not just some select few.

Yeah.

So I think that the in terms of the high level pitch, we probably just made it.

We're we are concerned about all kinds of concentration of power scenarios.

There's also kind of the important but somewhat more prosaic issue of just we want the public policy debate that is unfolding right now to be better informed than it currently is.

And a lot of the debates, even among extremely informed people, really come down to

questions about what's going on inside of the frontier labs.

So some degree of frontier lab transparency is important.

And I think for me, and I I don't I actually I I'm gonna say I'll s this isn't me personally.

This this might not be something Daniel would second, but

For me too, I I think that

It's just going to be so hard to craft good public policy to guide us over these next these transitional years are just so hard.

Like I I just don't think you can write rules for how this is supposed to go that are like going to be useful or good or like not too many.

It's going to be very hard.

You know, I'm I'm skeptical of the whole guardrails concept.

But

I think one thing that you really can do is you can shape the information environment.

And the information environment shapes the incentives of all of the actors here, whether it's the policymaking world, whether it's the frontier labs themselves, their relationships with one another, their relationships with their employees, you know, the management and the labor relationship inside of these labs, all that.

I think i i if the information ecosystem is healthy, I think that makes for better incentives overall.

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