Deb Proctor
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90 appearances
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1 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
Deb Proctor’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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I gave her the cell number, the badge number, and everything from the officer that called me. And she did call and she confirmed every last detail.
I was just heart sick, gut sick, heart sick. My whole body responded and all I could think of was, who are you? How could you do this?
That poor wife and those two sons that he walked away from in this barn fire in the middle of the night, What horror, what pain, what trauma that they must have endured thinking that they were watching him burn up in front of their eyes.
Go to an attorney, go to the bank, and get protection. So that's what I did.
I just was in a state of robot, just trying to put one foot in front of the other. and then formulate a plan on how to tell the family.
I loved that boy. He was my son, too, you know. He was a third son. So my heart hurt for him, just like it did for my boys, to tell him. Everyone in the family called him Little Jeff.
And his response was, you know, silent initially, as you could imagine, and then just struggling. We both needed some time to just deal. The one person she didn't want to speak with was Jeff. I really did not have any communication with him whatsoever. I just had nothing to say.
There was no charges to be made here. You know, he's a scam, but there's no charges that I could file. The only legal action Deb could take was filing for divorce. The domestic violence service of the tribe helped me and just took the papers. And when they served him the papers, he just signed it. He didn't even question it.
Media showed up from Canada, from Oklahoma, from the UK. I just didn't have any peace. I could rarely go home. My phone rang constantly. I was just completely overwhelmed.
Evidently, he was messing with young college girls, and he was getting ready to get in trouble.
When he left Canada in the fire and came to New Orleans, he said, I've got to find a woman with money.
He got a Social Security from somebody that had died in the 70s, a girl. So he took over her Social Security.
That's how he worked in the decades that he came to the United States. He used the Social Security and false name. I don't know how anybody pulls this off. It's so elaborate.
I had seen his birth certificate, and I still have it. But when you look... There are things that have been changed.
There was never anybody that played football for Woody Hayes by his name, ever.
He never counts his strokes, and when he was out of bounds, he never counted it.
It's very possible because, look, this is rural. This is a dead-end road. Maybe he did think, hey, I can get out in the woods in rural Oklahoma and continue to hide.
They did it because they'd lost him once and they didn't want to lose him again. I think they were just so happy to have him back in their lives.
But I had a really dear friend. She nicknamed him Ref. And so for a while, when I referred to him, it was Ref. But now I usually just say Jeff.
I just remember it was a profound moment. It's the duality of, oh my God, what in the world? Along with, you have to live, you have to deal with this and go on. And I remember just laying in the floor, just face down, and just sobbing and saying, my God, how does another human do this to a human in the guise of love?
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