Deborah Kat

And so it's super, super important to remember that and to also open up those conversations to allow the kinds of questions that it's easier for someone else to ask.

I work virtually.

I work in person here in scenic Santa Cruz and the San Francisco Bay Area.

I have clients come to me and we do intensives where we'll be together for two or three days.

I was a massage therapist, so we work a lot with touch when we're in person.

And I also do groups and have groups available.

And people can find me at DebraKat.com.

And that's D-E-B-O-R-A-H-K-A-T.com.

I realized I don't spell either of those words the way people expect them, but there you go.

Absolutely.

And I would love if it's okay, you know, to give your folks a gift.

And the gift is, it is called the Relationship Lab.

And it's kind of a, it's a date night experience, but a good one.

And it just goes through, you know, we talked a little bit about the erotic blueprints.

It talks about how to set up a experience so that, you know,

You know, there's the things that we want to negotiate.

It comes from my background as a pro dom and negotiating scenes in terms of time, in terms of who's doing what to whom.

What it is that's on the table and a way to, we didn't talk about aftercare, but the experience of what happens after an experience, whether it's sexual or not.

Do you need to be held?

Do you need to be checked in with?