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We are back with Matt Gutman talking about the episode of Abraham Shakespeare. Matt, this story was so bizarre. As you said, you almost can't make this up. And it was sort of cracked for law enforcement when Greg Smith, whom you mentioned earlier, who was an acquaintance of Abraham Shakespeare, and he actually went undercover with police to try to help solve this case.

So then he decides to help police and he helps solve this case as you said he actually goes undercover and tapes her and you know we learned that of course then she's convicted. Tell us where the case is now Matt because she's tried to appeal a couple times.

So then he decides to help police and he helps solve this case as you said he actually goes undercover and tapes her and you know we learned that of course then she's convicted. Tell us where the case is now Matt because she's tried to appeal a couple times.

She'll spend the rest of her life in prison. What a story, Matt. You did such a great job covering this. So thanks so much for being with me today, Matt. Great seeing you or talking to you anyway. It was fun. Same here. Matt Gutman is the chief national correspondent for ABC News. Don't forget, of course, to tune in on Friday nights at 9 for all new episodes of 2020 on ABC.

She'll spend the rest of her life in prison. What a story, Matt. You did such a great job covering this. So thanks so much for being with me today, Matt. Great seeing you or talking to you anyway. It was fun. Same here. Matt Gutman is the chief national correspondent for ABC News. Don't forget, of course, to tune in on Friday nights at 9 for all new episodes of 2020 on ABC.

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The 2020 After Show is produced by Cameron Chertavian, Sasha Aslanian, with Joseph Reed, Tom Berman, Brian Mazursky, and Alex Berenfeld of 2020. We had technical help this week from Trevor Hastings and Kevin Ryder. Theme music by Evan Viola and Janice Johnston is the executive producer of 2020. Josh Cohen, the director of podcasting at ABC Audio. Laura Mayer is the executive producer.

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