Deborah Roberts

Then she actually wound up helping police crack this case in the most devastating way.

You may have seen it on our episode on 2020, but today there are portions of this story that we're going to bring to you that you did not get a chance to see or to hear.

There's some secret recordings that you have not heard before.

And we're going to tell you all about them and how authorities were able to track down Heidi's killer.

It's a lot to untangle.

And who better to help me do it than 2020 producer Brooke Stanglin.

Hi, Brooke.

Hi.

You and I have worked on a lot of stories together.

And one of the things I enjoy about this podcast is people get a chance to know how these stories come together, who the folks are behind the scenes, and passionate folks like you who book a lot of these stories.

Because people often ask me, how do you get these stories?

Yeah.

And oftentimes it's folks like you who heard about a story and you are just on it like a dog with a bone.

And you kind of have a spidey sense, I think, about what feels like a good story, don't you?

Well, let's go back to Heidi and Nick.

So you're from the Midwest, as you said.

Usually we have not or I have not heard of these stories.

And, you know, you all bring them to us.

And this story you learned about pretty early on.

You understood this whole world of the religious community, young couple who met in church.