Deborah Roberts

I mean, obviously, you're looking at the victim, and that's what the family's focused on.

But when you look at the assailant and you think about the age, do you have any thoughts about that based on a lot of the cases that you've been involved with?

It would have been a very different case here.

Well, we'll see what happens because eligible for parole and gaining parole are two very different things.

Yes, they are.

So we'll be following this case and we will be following you, Dr. Jordan.

This was really a pleasure.

And tell us about your podcast again.

Oh, Dr. Jordan, such a pleasure when you bring such insight to our reporting.

My pleasure.

Such a pleasure to meet you.

Well, we thank you for joining us today.

We hope you found this as fascinating as we did.

And who knows, we'll probably be talking to Dr. Jordan again because there's so much more to talk about.

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