Deborah Roberts

And she's feeling a little uncomfortable about it, but she's now kind of upset and wants to know, is he lying?

We revealed some of these recordings.

They were never heard in court, by the way, but we revealed some of these in our 2020 episode you might have heard, but then there are also little clips that you have not heard, including this one.

Take a listen.

This is pretty incredible stuff, Brooke, when you think about it, because here's a guy who's, you know, very religious guy, very much of faith.

And he's talking about how he's not honest, which was quite an admission.

Rachel is kind of, I mean, I don't know, kind of states evidence at this point.

I don't know when people go undercover, you know, with wires and all this stuff.

I mean, this was pretty brave stuff that she's actually recording him.

Anything could have happened.

And she's doing this and she had not spoken out before.

So when we began digging into this story and you were able to convince her to sit down and speak with us, this was a pretty big deal.

This was a woman who was not only just scared and worried that her marriage had blown up and all of that, but how were you able to convince her to sit down with us?

Because I was so impressed when she did.

Her psyche had been injured prior to this in another relationship and just how she wanted to do the right thing.

It was actually very powerful for all of us, I think, in the room.

So she tells us her story.

She talks about how she did these recordings.

She talks about her feelings about her husband and how everything changed in 2021.

after 10 years and no answers about what happened to Heidi Fergus, her husband, 38-year-old Nick, is arrested in connection with his wife's murder.