Deborah

Our senior producer is Kalila Holt.

Our supervising producer is Stevie Lane.

Editorial guidance from Emily Condon.

Special thanks to Chris Neary, Lucy Sullivan, Ben Natafhafri, and Greta Cohn.

Special thanks also to Daria O'Connor, Jack Eiferman, and Alan Andrade, the author of the book Leopoldville, A Tragedy Too Long Secret.

which is a great read if you want to learn more about the sinking of Jerry's ship.

Debra is publishing a collection of Jerry's writing that will soon be available on Amazon.

You can find more information about the book at waitformeworld.com.

Her daughter, Leigh, has been working on a screenplay about Debra and Jerry.

As for Joe, he has two Netflix documentaries coming out early next year.

Don't be withholding, okay?

Email us at heavyweightatpushkin.fm.

Happy holidays to all, and thank you for your continued support and listenership.

I'm Jonathan Goldstein.

Ta-ta.

Ciao for now.

Adieu.

Don't use that stuff at the end.

But you could put that part in.

You could put in the part of me saying, don't use that stuff at the end.