Debra Kamin
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According to Return of the Land, she is not a Christian.
She's a Jew.
And in addition, Michelle is married to a black man, and they share three biracial children.
But she didn't think it was going to be a big deal.
She looked at it with a mindset of hard dollars and cents.
And she even said to me when I met her later, she doesn't care if the people who end up coming to this investment property are white supremacists because she believes there's all different kinds of people everywhere.
It didn't matter to her.
She thought it would be a good deal.
Yeah, she saw it as a real estate investment, pure and simple.
So in November 2025, Michelle actually went through the steps of applying to become a member of Return of the Land and be able to purchase shares that would give her access to the land.
And finally, through this process, we actually now have a window to what the screening looks like to determine who is sufficiently white.
We know the questions that they're asking.
We've actually seen them now, finally.
And we can tell how they determine who is and who is not eligible to purchase land in this community.
And the questions are pretty wild.
They say, where is your family from?
What is your background?
What is your religion?
What is your political beliefs?