Dee Salmin

Yeah, it is.

It is.

And I don't want to take that away from girlhood, which is why I'm like, no, babe, still do that.

you're like something in marketing seriously though seriously though yeah and it's like no actually like ask them about this big presentation that they've coming up ask them about the marathon that they're running like ask them about anything else because I think the point is right like we've spent our whole entire lives in so many not just in relationships and dating and whatever it's like in so many facets like centering men from just like

medical misogyny to the like the way that cars are designed to the way that iPhones are designed like there's so many ways our whole entire existence centers around men and it's like let's try and unlearn that plus unlearn it in your own how you show up in your own friendships in your life in your relationships and whatever it is and make a conscious effort yeah and

To, like, de-centre men.

Which we do, like, in... Which is something that I have done and I've heard from so many young women have done.

It's, like...

whether it's trying to downplay their intelligence, right?

Like I did this story that went quite viral a couple of years ago where I interviewed this woman called Caroline.

She's an aerospace engineer.

And she had done a bit of an experiment on dating out.

She'd realised that for years, like she had that on her profile and she was like getting no matches.

And so she took aerospace engineer, which is, hello, the coolest thing I've ever heard.

She took it off.

And put something else on.

I can't remember what it was.

It was something, yeah, like just like maybe it was flight attendant or something just like different.

Or maybe she took it off altogether and she had so many more matches, so many more matches.

And then so at the hookup we put this up on our Instagram and we were like, can anyone relate to this?