Demis Hassabis

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292 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 7 Apr

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch · 20VC: DeepMind's Demis Hassabis on Why AGI is Bigger than the Industrial Revolution | Why LLMs Will Not Commoditise & We Have Not Hit Scaling Laws | Bottlenecks in AI & The Energy Crisis Caused By AI | Whether AI Will Do More to Harm or Help Inequality · 7 Apr 2026 podcast

The returns are still very substantial, although they're a bit less than they were, obviously, at the start of all of this scaling.

I would say about 90% of the breakthroughs that underpin the modern AI industry were done either by Google Brain or Google Research or DeepMind.

Those labs that have capability to invent new algorithmic ideas are going to start having bigger advantage over the next few years.

The last set of ideas are sort of all the juices being wrung out of them.

And I sometimes quantify like AGI, the coming of AGI is like 10 times the industrial revolution at 10 times the speed.

Yeah, we've been very consistent how we define AGI as basically a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the human mind has.

And that's important because the brain is the only existence proof we have that we know of and maybe in the universe that general intelligence is possible.

So that for me is the bar for what AGI should be.

It's the worst question.

I mean, I think, look, I've got a probability distribution around the timings, but I would say there's a very good chance of it being within the next five years.

So that's not long at all.

Is that closer than you thought?

Has that changed over time?

Not really.

I mean, actually, when you when you it's funny, my co-founder Shane Legg, who's chief scientist here, when we started out DeepMind back in 2010, he used to write blog posts sort of predicting about when AGI would happen.

And bearing in mind in 2010, when we started, almost nobody was working in AI and everyone thought AI basically didn't work.

No, but they're still there on the internet for people to check.

And we used to do this extrapolation of compute and algorithmic progress.

And basically we predicted around 20 years it would take from when we started out.

And I think we're pretty much on track.

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