Demis Hassabis

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch · 20VC: DeepMind's Demis Hassabis on Why AGI is Bigger than the Industrial Revolution | Why LLMs Will Not Commoditise & We Have Not Hit Scaling Laws | Bottlenecks in AI & The Energy Crisis Caused By AI | Whether AI Will Do More to Harm or Help Inequality · 7 Apr 2026 podcast

And I think that is how it should go, ideally.

But it does have to be international because, of course, these systems are cross-border and they're cross-territory.

Yeah.

Well, I think there are, I mean, ultimately, it's got to be government, I think.

But, you know, the kinds of technical bodies that would be able to do the technical work would be like maybe the AI Safety Institutes.

You know, there's a very good one in the UK that, you know, was set up under Prime Minister Sunak.

And I think it's doing great work.

And then there's one in the US.

And maybe some of the leading countries that have the best research should also have an equivalent body that is staffed with

high quality researchers too that can actually evaluate and audit these kinds of systems against certain benchmarks and kind of like independently check whether they are meeting the right standards.

Yeah, I think we need some kind of international body, maybe similar to the atomic agency, something like that, that perhaps the AI Safety Institute sort of feed into.

And the research community has to also do this and be involved in like, what are the right set of benchmarks to check what types of traits, what types of capabilities?

Maybe there are other safeguards too, like

You know, it wouldn't be desirable to have AI systems output tokens that are not human readable.

So, you know, in some kind of machine language that we couldn't understand, I think that would introduce a new vulnerability.

So there's quite a few sort of things like that, which I think most of the leading labs would agree probably not best to do.

And then these bodies would, you know, these institutions would test against those things.

And I think that would give the public confidence and, you know, academia could be involved as well, as well as civil society, that these systems, which are going to get incredibly powerful, have been independently checked and audited.

That's it.

Your magic wand's done now.

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