Demis Hassabis

Well, so I think the fundamental aspect of this is, can we mimic these intuitive leaps rather than incremental advances that the best human scientists seem to be able to do?

I always say what separates a great scientist from a good scientist is they're both technically very capable, of course, but the great scientist is more creative.

And so maybe they'll spot some pattern from another subject area that can be

can sort of have an analogy or some sort of pattern matching to the area they're trying to solve.

And I think one day AI will be able to do this, but it doesn't have the reasoning capabilities and some of the thinking capabilities that are going to be needed to make that kind of breakthrough.

I also think that we're lacking consistency.

So you often hear some of our competitors talk about

these modern systems that we have today are PhD intelligences.

I think that's a nonsense.

They're not PhD intelligences.

They have some capabilities that are PhD level, but they're not in general capable, and that's exactly what general intelligence should be, of performing across the board at the PhD level.

In fact, as we all know, interacting with today's chatbots, if you pose the question in a certain way, they can make simple mistakes with even high school maths

and simple counting.

So that shouldn't be possible for a true AGI system.

So I think that we are maybe, I would say, sort of five to ten years away from having an AGI system that's capable of doing those things

Another thing that's missing is continual learning, this ability to like online teach the system something new or adjust its behavior in some way.

And so a lot of these, I think, core capabilities are still missing and maybe scaling will get us there.

But I feel if I was to bet, I think there are probably one or two missing breakthroughs that are still required and will come over the next five or so years.

No, I mean, we're not seeing that internally, and we're still seeing a huge rate of progress.

But also, we're sort of looking at things more broadly.