Demis Hassabis

And I think we've been showing at DeepMind a lot of the way of that, obviously AlphaFold most famously, but actually we've applied our AI systems to many branches of science, whether it's material design, helping with controlling plasma and fusion reactors, predicting the weather, solving, you know, mass Olympiad math problems.

And the same types of systems with some extra fine tuning can basically solve a lot of these complex problems.

So I think we're just scratching the surface of what AI will be able to do.

And there are some things that are missing.

So AI today, I would say, doesn't have true creativity in the sense that it can't come up with a new conjecture yet or a new hypothesis.

It can maybe prove something that you give it.

But it's not able to come up with a sort of new idea or new theory itself.

So I think that would be one of the tests actually for AGI.

What is that?

Yeah.

Well, I think it's this sort of intuitive leaps that we often celebrate with the best scientists in history and artists, of course.

And maybe it's done through analogy or analogical reasoning.

There are many theories in psychology and neuroscience as to how we as human scientists do it.

But a good test for it would be something like give one of these modern AI systems a knowledge cutoff of 1901 and see if it can come up with special relativity like Einstein did in 1905.

If it's able to do that, then I think we're on to something really, really important where perhaps we're nearing an AGI.

Another example would be with our AlphaGo program that beat the world champion at Go.

Not only did it win back 10 years ago, it invented new strategies that had never been seen before for the game of Go, this famously Move 37 in game two that is now studied.

Can an AI system come up with a game as elegant, as satisfying, as aesthetically beautiful as Go, not just a new strategy?

And the answer to those things at the moment is no.

So that's one of the things I think that's missing from a true general system, an AGI system, is it should be able to do those kinds of things as well.