Derek (More Plates More Dates)

And that's fine.

Like, it's still data, and it's still worthwhile, and it's still good.

It's just, like, not... Don't take that as, like, the sign-off that, like, you're, you know, 200 milligrams of testosterone and enanthate per week, that you're, like...

more aggressive protocol has been designed to do is going to be the same outcome.

It's not.

You're going to have the erythropoiesis increase that might not be reflected in the traverse trial.

You're going to have the disproportionately high androgenic signaling.

You're going to have a lot of things that you were looking to get the reassurance that won't happen, but you absolutely need to be cognizant of because it will probably happen still.

To the opposite side of the coin on that androgel, you know, like it's not necessarily physiologic replacement.

The thing to note is it should be expected that if you use more testosterone, you're going to have more of the erythropoiesis.

Like that's literally what it does.

So to think that it would be a net negative because you have a 25% increase in that via your testosterone administration is,

you were hypogonadal to begin with which presumably is the reason you're getting on trt you know depends on the person but like going from hypogonadal where you might be like borderline like anemic for all we know and then having the 25 bump like maybe you need that to actually like have adequate oxygen carrying capacity and like actually sufficiently fuel your body

So it's not to say it's like net bad, net good.

It's all about where do you achieve?

Like the problem is, is like the definition of symptom relief too is so vague because you could achieve symptom relief at, you know, 450 total T maybe depending on the person or it might be at like 800.

Or it might have been, like, even if it was 450, like, if you got up to 800, you're still in normal on paper.

So, like, is that bad?

You know?

Like, who's to say?