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Yeah, I definitely wouldn't make any rash decisions based on numbers on a piece of paper because I know a lot of guys who like the best physiques in natural bodybuilding are like guys with 500 total testosterone.
So I know guys with three times the amount of testosterone production, much worse physiques.
Like it's not always the number on a piece of paper.
It's your genetics, your response to it.
literally how many muscle fibers you have at birth.
Like there are a lot of factors that determine what you're going to look like, how you're going to respond, the shape of your muscle bellies and how they appear to people.
Your body fat level, especially like if you are leaner, you will just appear more muscular, you know, stuff like that.
I think the only issue is, like, defining what restoration of physiological testosterone production equates to is, like, when we were talking about, like, coffee and, like, how much caffeine is in a cup of coffee.
Like, it could vary so much.
Like, some guy's replacement, adequate physiologic replacement, what he was when he was younger, highly variable.
And in that traverse trial, using androgel to bump your total T from, like,
hypogonadal to like 400 is not necessarily indicative of what I would say a lot of people are looking to the data to see what the results were of testosterone therapy.
Because a lot of guys are on injectable test, boosting to 1000 total T with a disproportionately high free testosterone.
Because when you inject infrequently too, you drive your SHBG down proportionally.
That is not the same as a guy who's using an androgel to get to like 430 total T. So taking that outcome and running with it as like no cardiovascular risk, I think that's a bit haphazard personally.
Now, it's obviously promising data and like it's great that it came out.
Like it's very, very promising.
The only problem is like how many guys are actually using that medium of therapy like...
I don't know, none.
Like, I don't know a single guy using Androgel.