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Derek Thompson

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The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And if you add enough supply, prices can actually go down.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It's why you have in so many places where people want to live prices going through the roof because we've simply made it too hard to build.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It is really, really important to me that whatever explanation that people have for this phenomenon, some people say it's about billionaires or corporate interests.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I say, look to Texas.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Texas has billionaires.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Texas has corporate interests.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

But Texas also has an entirely different set of rules and customs and permitting regulation that simply makes it easier for supply to respond to demand.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And as a result...

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

We have outcomes in Texas that are better than the rent freeze that Mamdani has promised New York and other left-wing politicians have promised their own cities and states.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

We have something better than a rent freeze.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

We have rents going down because we've made it easier to build.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Mark, you've written about this explicitly.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Among liberals, input was considered a costless virtue.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It was considered costless to have long periods of input, to prize input, to say that the ultimate expression of democracy is people standing up and telling their city council, don't build this thing anywhere close to me.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

That was seen as more democratic in some places.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And the actual vote for the mayor who promised to deliver housing to that city and actually found that the people who showed up on Tuesday night at the city council meeting were the veto point that prevented him from allowing housing.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

The polling outfit Blue Rose recently did...

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

in this survey where they asked people whether they liked abundance messaging or populist messaging.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And it turns out that the most popular messaging was a synthesis of abundance and populism.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It was things like, quote, working Americans can't afford the basics, and it's because we stopped building them.