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Hi, Ciarán, how are you?

So I do think it is.

Climate breakdown is where we're at at the moment.

And I suppose one of the reasons I texted him was because, you know, we can't be shaming people for going to the beach because there's a few nice days weather.

Because if United States weather is not climate change, same way we have storms, and that's not climate change either.

There's real science behind climate change or climate breakdown, as James was saying there.

And I think that's what we need to stick to, because the argument no favours whenever we start shaming people because they're having 99s or whatever it might be.

whenever there's a couple of days of nice weather.

We don't get much nice weather in Ireland.

We should be able to enjoy it.

Thank you.

No, and I wasn't disagreeing.

I wasn't saying that what we're facing at the moment is not climate change.

I'm saying that taking a single data point and saying, oh, look, this is climate change.

it does the argument no favours, because there is a lot of science behind climate change, as you're well aware, Sucia.

But I think taking a single data point and saying, look, this is climate change, it does the argument no harm.

Because somebody can say, well, as they were saying earlier, look, in 1997 it was just as warm.

And you can always pick these little data points and say, look, this isn't climate change.

But I think there's real science there.

As James was saying, there's real problems with climate breakdown at the moment.