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I mean,

in primary school jogged me back when I was a kid.

I mean, the Sahara Desert, we were learning the Morocco and Africa, North Africa.

No, I don't buy climate and all that.

I mean, if there wasn't a war, I mean, they'd have climate.

But the war is why they're all displaced here.

Let's call it a state of space.

Libya?

Listen, I accept some of that as a consequence, yes.

I think them people in them countries need help.

But I mean, they're not going to be able to be helped if there's continuous war going on in these places.

I mean, so the war has to stop.

I mean, and that's where we start from.

Well, OK, Ciarán, if that was the case, and if that does happen, I don't know if it's going to happen.

I'm probably going to hazard a guess we won't see it in our lifetime, OK?

But if that is the case, right, surely you're going to plan for that.

You're going to put preventative measures in place.

to at least limit that.

Now, I'm not saying, yes, we can try and work to get the temperature not to go up as much as they say, but I just don't see how that's going to happen any time in the near future.

You know, we talk nuclear energy, yeah, that's kicked down the can.