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Nobody wants to really talk about that.

They like to talk about it, but they'll never do anything about it.

I mean, is that not one of the cleanest sources of energy?

Absolutely is.

Nobody talks about it.

Look, I'm not one of these people here who says climate change isn't happening.

I'm certainly not that type of guy.

What I'm saying is to you, oil and gas is here, CO2 is here, and it's here for a while.

So we need to maybe start looking at mitigating, doing things differently that we're going to have to use oil and gas for, but maybe implement filtration.

Whatever it is you have to do.

I don't know.

But it's not going anywhere quick.

No, it's fabulous.

I've driven from Cork, sorry, from Killarney

to cashels today and I'm watching fields of hay and silage being made.

We passed a bog outside Killarney, there's turf out in the bog drying.

The children all have smiles on their faces.

You can tell by the ages of them, half of them are ducking out of school.

They're jumping in and out of the rivers and the sea.

We should be making the most of it and enjoying ourselves because in a couple of weeks' time it's going to be colder and wetter than previous years.