Desiree Burch

She learned how to have a reputation. She also flexed her biceps. She sort of, you know, she showed off her guns. She's a show woman. Yeah. Come on. There's songs. There's stories. There's Jesus. There's guns. But not the kind Frederick Douglass is talking about. Yeah. Because God is very much alive. Exactly.

She learned how to have a reputation. She also flexed her biceps. She sort of, you know, she showed off her guns. She's a show woman. Yeah. Come on. There's songs. There's stories. There's Jesus. There's guns. But not the kind Frederick Douglass is talking about. Yeah. Because God is very much alive. Exactly.

Yeah, but if you're going to come and do some rap, you're going to pretend you've been to jail. You know, like you're going to talk about how many, you know, like you're going to come hard. You're not like even if you're Dutch, you're going to try to sound like you're American black and not Dutch if you want to sound authentic. And she's she's doing the performance. So, like, I don't know.

Yeah, but if you're going to come and do some rap, you're going to pretend you've been to jail. You know, like you're going to talk about how many, you know, like you're going to come hard. You're not like even if you're Dutch, you're going to try to sound like you're American black and not Dutch if you want to sound authentic. And she's she's doing the performance. So, like, I don't know.

I kind of get it.

I kind of get it.

Ask it like that. I mean, Sojourner, she loves that truth. She loves that tea. She's spicy. So someone like Douglas might have been a little bit more like, oh, hello, and blah, blah, blah, and we're doing official things. She might have been a little bit freer with her opinions about how lucky this president was to meet her and all of her insight. So I don't know. I think it could have been spicy.

Ask it like that. I mean, Sojourner, she loves that truth. She loves that tea. She's spicy. So someone like Douglas might have been a little bit more like, oh, hello, and blah, blah, blah, and we're doing official things. She might have been a little bit freer with her opinions about how lucky this president was to meet her and all of her insight. So I don't know. I think it could have been spicy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I wanted her to be up in there and be like, oh, so you're the president. Well, let me tell you something. But yeah, I also can see how she'd be like, you know what, it helps to have powerful people on your side. So let's make him feel like everything was great and get what we need, especially since she's so pro-war now. I love when she's like, you know, I was never against the war.

Yeah, I wanted her to be up in there and be like, oh, so you're the president. Well, let me tell you something. But yeah, I also can see how she'd be like, you know what, it helps to have powerful people on your side. So let's make him feel like everything was great and get what we need, especially since she's so pro-war now. I love when she's like, you know, I was never against the war.

I was just against Douglas. I just could never stand him.

I was just against Douglas. I just could never stand him.

I can't remember the timing of 48 Years a Mule, but this is post-Civil War. So this is like Reconstruction. So that must have come up. Like, is she part of a conversation or is she starting a conversation that takes off later? Like, what's the timing of her trying to do this?

I can't remember the timing of 48 Years a Mule, but this is post-Civil War. So this is like Reconstruction. So that must have come up. Like, is she part of a conversation or is she starting a conversation that takes off later? Like, what's the timing of her trying to do this?

Of course, you've got to speak well of the dead, especially if you outlive them. Yeah, well, yeah. He's like, my favorite frenemy. You know, what can be said? First of all, I'm here and you're not. But also, you were great.

Of course, you've got to speak well of the dead, especially if you outlive them. Yeah, well, yeah. He's like, my favorite frenemy. You know, what can be said? First of all, I'm here and you're not. But also, you were great.

This was amazing. You've given me a notebook, and I have studied for this like I was cramming for an exam. There are five pages here. I don't even know if I've listened as well as I've written down notes about this person. I love this. The cult years are delicious. It's like just like, you know, also like her her touring comedian performer years.

This was amazing. You've given me a notebook, and I have studied for this like I was cramming for an exam. There are five pages here. I don't even know if I've listened as well as I've written down notes about this person. I love this. The cult years are delicious. It's like just like, you know, also like her her touring comedian performer years.