Desiree Burch

Did he do that at the beginning? Because no one's going to find that in the middle if they haven't already bought the book.

Did he do that at the beginning? Because no one's going to find that in the middle if they haven't already bought the book.

I mean, I'm just saying, like, I mean, my predecessor here, like, although I'm probably not going to sing on stage anytime soon, but you never know. If it works, it works.

I mean, I'm just saying, like, I mean, my predecessor here, like, although I'm probably not going to sing on stage anytime soon, but you never know. If it works, it works.

Ask it like that. I mean, Sojourner, she loves that truth. She loves that tea. She's spicy. So with someone like Douglas might have been a little bit more like, oh, hello and blah, blah, blah. And we're doing official things. She might have been a little bit freer with her opinions about like how lucky this president was to meet her and all of her insight. So I don't know.

Ask it like that. I mean, Sojourner, she loves that truth. She loves that tea. She's spicy. So with someone like Douglas might have been a little bit more like, oh, hello and blah, blah, blah. And we're doing official things. She might have been a little bit freer with her opinions about like how lucky this president was to meet her and all of her insight. So I don't know.

I think it could have been spicy.

I think it could have been spicy.

Yeah, I wanted her to be up in there and be like, oh, so you're the president. Well, let me tell you something. But yeah, I also can see how she'd be like, you know what, it helps to have powerful people on your side.

Yeah, I wanted her to be up in there and be like, oh, so you're the president. Well, let me tell you something. But yeah, I also can see how she'd be like, you know what, it helps to have powerful people on your side.

Of course, you've got to speak well of the dead, especially if you outlive them. Yeah, well, yeah. He's like my favorite frenemy. You know, what can be said? First of all, I'm here and you're not. But also, you were great.

Of course, you've got to speak well of the dead, especially if you outlive them. Yeah, well, yeah. He's like my favorite frenemy. You know, what can be said? First of all, I'm here and you're not. But also, you were great.

That was incredible and inspiring. Thank you for making this person just breathing the sort of modern day heroine into her that she deserves. That was really cool. And yeah, I mean, just kind of remind you like that we're all history in the making.

That was incredible and inspiring. Thank you for making this person just breathing the sort of modern day heroine into her that she deserves. That was really cool. And yeah, I mean, just kind of remind you like that we're all history in the making.

And, you know, how you choose to focus and how you choose to build that, you know, as part of a legacy that other people a hundred plus years later pick up and go like, oh, wow, I didn't know what this person was doing and how inspiring that is to what I would love to do.

And, you know, how you choose to focus and how you choose to build that, you know, as part of a legacy that other people a hundred plus years later pick up and go like, oh, wow, I didn't know what this person was doing and how inspiring that is to what I would love to do.

Thank you so much. But this is like a series one reunion. I feel like they should do a behind the music on us. You know, none of you young listeners know what that is. But you know what I mean? The inside documentary on podcasts, although I guess podcasts are already kind of an insider. Anyway, you know what I mean?

Thank you so much. But this is like a series one reunion. I feel like they should do a behind the music on us. You know, none of you young listeners know what that is. But you know what I mean? The inside documentary on podcasts, although I guess podcasts are already kind of an insider. Anyway, you know what I mean?

She's one of the big ones. Do you know what I mean? And it's also she's one of the big ones that you learn about so early on. And then when everyone's like, what do you know about Sojourner Truth? You're like...

She's one of the big ones. Do you know what I mean? And it's also she's one of the big ones that you learn about so early on. And then when everyone's like, what do you know about Sojourner Truth? You're like...