Detective Conway
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You woke up, you went to the store, you said it was probably around 11 a.m. because you usually don't shop at noon or later, and then you came back, and then you left to go to BP, you walked there, and then you came back again. Do you remember around what time that was, your first BP visit?
You woke up, you went to the store, you said it was probably around 11 a.m. because you usually don't shop at noon or later, and then you came back, and then you left to go to BP, you walked there, and then you came back again. Do you remember around what time that was, your first BP visit?
I'm just all over the place. Is it, say, between 1 and 6?
I'm just all over the place. Is it, say, between 1 and 6?
Between one and six? Still some daylight out? Yeah. Okay, and then you come back, and then you said you left again to go get cigarettes. Around what time do you think that was? Was it dark out, light out?
Between one and six? Still some daylight out? Yeah. Okay, and then you come back, and then you said you left again to go get cigarettes. Around what time do you think that was? Was it dark out, light out?
Still light out? Mm-hmm. And when you came back, was it light out?
Still light out? Mm-hmm. And when you came back, was it light out?
So you left to get cigarettes, it was light out, and when you came back, it was dark?
So you left to get cigarettes, it was light out, and when you came back, it was dark?
Okay.
Okay.
And which store was that when you went to go get snacks?
And which store was that when you went to go get snacks?
Brittany went to go get snacks at the BP. Okay, so you get back up to the cigarettes, and then Brittany wants to go get snacks from the BP. So Brittany goes to the store while you're home?
Brittany went to go get snacks at the BP. Okay, so you get back up to the cigarettes, and then Brittany wants to go get snacks from the BP. So Brittany goes to the store while you're home?
Okay, okay. So Brittany wanted snacks, so then Brittany left.
Okay, okay. So Brittany wanted snacks, so then Brittany left.
She took a lift to the BP? She lifted to the BP. Yesterday. Okay. So Brittany goes to BP to get snacks. And then she comes back. It's been about 10 minutes. What happens right after that?
She took a lift to the BP? She lifted to the BP. Yesterday. Okay. So Brittany goes to BP to get snacks. And then she comes back. It's been about 10 minutes. What happens right after that?
So that would probably be 10 or 11 p.m.? Yeah. About how long do you think you were at Grandma's house for?
So that would probably be 10 or 11 p.m.? Yeah. About how long do you think you were at Grandma's house for?
Now, when you get back around 4 or 5, did you notice that the kids were in their bed?
Now, when you get back around 4 or 5, did you notice that the kids were in their bed?
You weren't really like checking to see if they were there or not. You just assumed they were.
You weren't really like checking to see if they were there or not. You just assumed they were.
And was Brittany, Brittany was home when you did that? When you got in? Okay. And where was Brittany? Was she in bed or somewhere else?
And was Brittany, Brittany was home when you did that? When you got in? Okay. And where was Brittany? Was she in bed or somewhere else?
She was in bed. Okay. And that's around four or five. And then what happens after that?
She was in bed. Okay. And that's around four or five. And then what happens after that?
So what did you do while you were there?
So what did you do while you were there?
So here's the deal. We just want to find the kid. We don't care whatever your lifestyle is. We don't judge. We don't care. You could tell me that you're a drug lord for some Colombian cartel. I don't care. I want to find the 8-year-old kid. That's it.
So here's the deal. We just want to find the kid. We don't care whatever your lifestyle is. We don't judge. We don't care. You could tell me that you're a drug lord for some Colombian cartel. I don't care. I want to find the 8-year-old kid. That's it.
So the reason we're asking you all these questions and we're trying to get specific, every detail, it's not because we're like, ooh, what's Celeste doing? It's because we're trying to figure out at some point, This child has gone missing, and the best way for us to figure that out, even if it seems doesn't make sense, like, why are they asking this? What's this have to do with that?
So the reason we're asking you all these questions and we're trying to get specific, every detail, it's not because we're like, ooh, what's Celeste doing? It's because we're trying to figure out at some point, This child has gone missing, and the best way for us to figure that out, even if it seems doesn't make sense, like, why are they asking this? What's this have to do with that?
Even if it seems crazy, we got to get it. And I understand, but we don't care about it. We want to know every specific detail for every moment that you went through in the last...
Even if it seems crazy, we got to get it. And I understand, but we don't care about it. We want to know every specific detail for every moment that you went through in the last...
Like 72 hours.
Like 72 hours.
And we want to know the same thing about your girlfriend. And we want to know, so that way we can put everything together and be like, well, okay, well, if Celeste was here, here, here, and here, and here, that's what she was doing. So we know that she's not involved in this or whatever. And we know that this and that's going on.
And we want to know the same thing about your girlfriend. And we want to know, so that way we can put everything together and be like, well, okay, well, if Celeste was here, here, here, and here, and here, that's what she was doing. So we know that she's not involved in this or whatever. And we know that this and that's going on.
And then we can figure out what your girlfriend's doing from A, B, C, D, A, F, G, whatever. And then we can put everything together and we can figure out, okay, so where's the eight-year-old? What's going on? But in order for us to build this crazy picture, to be able to try to figure that out, we got to know everything. So, I mean...
And then we can figure out what your girlfriend's doing from A, B, C, D, A, F, G, whatever. And then we can put everything together and we can figure out, okay, so where's the eight-year-old? What's going on? But in order for us to build this crazy picture, to be able to try to figure that out, we got to know everything. So, I mean...
God knows, whatever you want to do, if you want to go meet up with another girlfriend or you went over to this house to go buy a pony, I don't care. We want to know where you went and why you went there.
God knows, whatever you want to do, if you want to go meet up with another girlfriend or you went over to this house to go buy a pony, I don't care. We want to know where you went and why you went there.
That way we can kind of understand what everybody's doing during these crucial hours where this child's gone missing just so that if we come back later and something crazy happens or whatever, we can say, okay, well, this makes sense because she was over here. This is what's going on. We just want to piece all that together. So I get grandma might have problems with your lifestyle.
That way we can kind of understand what everybody's doing during these crucial hours where this child's gone missing just so that if we come back later and something crazy happens or whatever, we can say, okay, well, this makes sense because she was over here. This is what's going on. We just want to piece all that together. So I get grandma might have problems with your lifestyle.
We don't have any problems with your lifestyle. We don't care. Okay? That's you. You do you.
We don't have any problems with your lifestyle. We don't care. Okay? That's you. You do you.
Okay, that's fine. We just, right now, we're just trying to figure out where everybody was. Okay? That's it. All right? We don't care what you're involved in, what you're not involved in. We don't care about your lifestyle. Okay? You do you. Okay? But we do need, for these few hours, to know exactly what happened, who you hung out with, where you were. That way we can verify all that information.
Okay, that's fine. We just, right now, we're just trying to figure out where everybody was. Okay? That's it. All right? We don't care what you're involved in, what you're not involved in. We don't care about your lifestyle. Okay? You do you. Okay? But we do need, for these few hours, to know exactly what happened, who you hung out with, where you were. That way we can verify all that information.
We can put the puzzle pieces together. And we can try to figure out where this kid is going.
We can put the puzzle pieces together. And we can try to figure out where this kid is going.
And with all that said, what do you think happened with Nicole?
And with all that said, what do you think happened with Nicole?
But sometimes there's no... So what do you think happened last night?
But sometimes there's no... So what do you think happened last night?
Did she try to get into it with you when she gets upset?
Did she try to get into it with you when she gets upset?
Now, had she ever run away before? Never, ever. Ever had any type of thing that were you thinking about?
Now, had she ever run away before? Never, ever. Ever had any type of thing that were you thinking about?
But she didn't try to like leave the school or anything? She just got out?
But she didn't try to like leave the school or anything? She just got out?
So she wakes you up, she calls 911 as she's waking you up, you said, and then she goes outside and she went and checked the whole parking lot?
So she wakes you up, she calls 911 as she's waking you up, you said, and then she goes outside and she went and checked the whole parking lot?
Okay, so that was one thing I wanted to touch on, too. So we've checked several cameras. There's a camera for the hotel. There's the car wash across the street. There's a bocce. There's another camera. We've checked all those cameras. We have people checking those cameras right now. They never saw her walking around that hotel.
Okay, so that was one thing I wanted to touch on, too. So we've checked several cameras. There's a camera for the hotel. There's the car wash across the street. There's a bocce. There's another camera. We've checked all those cameras. We have people checking those cameras right now. They never saw her walking around that hotel.
Mm-hmm. So is there any reason why that's not happening? I don't know. I honestly don't see it. Is there anything that happened?
Mm-hmm. So is there any reason why that's not happening? I don't know. I honestly don't see it. Is there anything that happened?
And they said the brown boxes were passed from the scene?
And they said the brown boxes were passed from the scene?
You said gray hoodie, red hoodie?
You said gray hoodie, red hoodie?
Gray hoodie. Blonde.
Gray hoodie. Blonde.
This blonde lady, have you ever seen her before?
This blonde lady, have you ever seen her before?
So that's the first time you've ever seen that person?
So that's the first time you've ever seen that person?
Okay. Did you see where she went off to after she talked to you? No.
Okay. Did you see where she went off to after she talked to you? No.
Now, has anything ever happened? Like, was there any type of accident or anything that happened with Nicole? Like, did something happen? Was there an accident?
Now, has anything ever happened? Like, was there any type of accident or anything that happened with Nicole? Like, did something happen? Was there an accident?
Like, last night?
Like, last night?
Has it ever gotten physical between Moore and you or Moore and Mom?
Has it ever gotten physical between Moore and you or Moore and Mom?
Now, another thing I do have to ask is on the side that something else might have happened, is there any reason something else might have happened? Like maybe Moore got hurt and there was an accident and we're just afraid to talk about it or something like that? Yes, sometimes she is like that. You'll ask her what's wrong. I mean, I'm talking like last night.
Now, another thing I do have to ask is on the side that something else might have happened, is there any reason something else might have happened? Like maybe Moore got hurt and there was an accident and we're just afraid to talk about it or something like that? Yes, sometimes she is like that. You'll ask her what's wrong. I mean, I'm talking like last night.
Did something happen to her to where she got hurt real bad? And we're coming up with this story to try to...
Did something happen to her to where she got hurt real bad? And we're coming up with this story to try to...
get away from that because we're worried that like with the police find out they're gonna think something else happened and we're gonna get in trouble like something like that because an accident happened say like she fell she got upset she hurt herself or something maybe she fell down the stairs maybe uh she back talked to you or back talked to mom or something and it got physical or some something happened to where she got hurt real bad and we're just trying to be like well we don't know the deuce we're gonna say she ran away because we don't want to get in trouble if something like that happened we do we would want to know about that because if it was an accident it was an accident
get away from that because we're worried that like with the police find out they're gonna think something else happened and we're gonna get in trouble like something like that because an accident happened say like she fell she got upset she hurt herself or something maybe she fell down the stairs maybe uh she back talked to you or back talked to mom or something and it got physical or some something happened to where she got hurt real bad and we're just trying to be like well we don't know the deuce we're gonna say she ran away because we don't want to get in trouble if something like that happened we do we would want to know about that because if it was an accident it was an accident
Okay, did something like that happen?
Okay, did something like that happen?
Do you think something could have happened to her and mom might have tried to cover her up because she might be scared or something?
Do you think something could have happened to her and mom might have tried to cover her up because she might be scared or something?
No, but what I'm getting at is, like, do you think there's a possibility that while you were gone that something could have happened to Moore that hurt her or worse while you were gone and Brittany is trying to cover it up because she's worried about she might get in trouble from something? We would fight for our kids. So she would never hurt Moore or anything like that? No, never.
No, but what I'm getting at is, like, do you think there's a possibility that while you were gone that something could have happened to Moore that hurt her or worse while you were gone and Brittany is trying to cover it up because she's worried about she might get in trouble from something? We would fight for our kids. So she would never hurt Moore or anything like that? No, never.
If something would happen to her, like say she fell down the stairs or something and she realized that she was not okay and wasn't going to get better, do you think she would still call us or do you think she would get worried that she might get in trouble because somebody might put the blame on her or something like that?
If something would happen to her, like say she fell down the stairs or something and she realized that she was not okay and wasn't going to get better, do you think she would still call us or do you think she would get worried that she might get in trouble because somebody might put the blame on her or something like that?
Is there any reason why... Is it Zaire? Am I saying it right? Zaire. Is there any reason why Zaire would say... Dad took her sister to the Batgirl Hospital.
Is there any reason why... Is it Zaire? Am I saying it right? Zaire. Is there any reason why Zaire would say... Dad took her sister to the Batgirl Hospital.
Now that you say this place, what is this place? Do you refer to it as this place or do you call it? Yeah, this place. Okay, is there any reason why she would call it a back row hospital? Mental hospital.
Now that you say this place, what is this place? Do you refer to it as this place or do you call it? Yeah, this place. Okay, is there any reason why she would call it a back row hospital? Mental hospital.
Okay. Now is there any reason?
Okay. Now is there any reason?
So why would Zaire say that she saw you take Nicole last night? Why would she say that you took her last night and that she's not coming back?
So why would Zaire say that she saw you take Nicole last night? Why would she say that you took her last night and that she's not coming back?
Why would I take Nicole? Well, there's a lot of stuff that's not making sense to us, okay? Mom's saying she went and looked all around the place and around the hotel. We have officers that have reviewed all the video camera footage, not just from the hotel, but from buildings that are around the hotel that can also see the hotel.
Why would I take Nicole? Well, there's a lot of stuff that's not making sense to us, okay? Mom's saying she went and looked all around the place and around the hotel. We have officers that have reviewed all the video camera footage, not just from the hotel, but from buildings that are around the hotel that can also see the hotel.
So if I were to go walk all around the hotel and hit up all those spots that mom said she went to and that you said mom went to, and then I watch that video camera footage, I'm going to see me walking around, right? Now, we didn't see her walking around. We didn't see any of that. So that didn't happen. Okay. We know that didn't happen.
So if I were to go walk all around the hotel and hit up all those spots that mom said she went to and that you said mom went to, and then I watch that video camera footage, I'm going to see me walking around, right? Now, we didn't see her walking around. We didn't see any of that. So that didn't happen. Okay. We know that didn't happen.
There's no dispute about it because the video evidence shows that that did not happen. Okay? Me walking out with Nicole? I'm talking about mom walking around the hotel.
There's no dispute about it because the video evidence shows that that did not happen. Okay? Me walking out with Nicole? I'm talking about mom walking around the hotel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she told us she walked through the parking lot. She did all this other stuff. And that didn't happen because it's not on camera. So we can definitively prove, based on camera video evidence, it didn't happen. Okay. Okay? Um...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she told us she walked through the parking lot. She did all this other stuff. And that didn't happen because it's not on camera. So we can definitively prove, based on camera video evidence, it didn't happen. Okay. Okay? Um...
When we first got into the story with you about where we're going and all that and everything, we had officers go to the BP and they gathered every single receipt for the entire day and evening. We got some issues there too. Okay. So between the two of you guys, there's stuff that's not ending up and there's stuff that's being said that happened that didn't happen.
When we first got into the story with you about where we're going and all that and everything, we had officers go to the BP and they gathered every single receipt for the entire day and evening. We got some issues there too. Okay. So between the two of you guys, there's stuff that's not ending up and there's stuff that's being said that happened that didn't happen.
We want to know where Nicole is. It's not an if we find Nicole. I want to know where Nicole is. It's a when we find Nicole. We're going to find her. Yeah. If it's within the next couple hours, within the next couple days, we're going to find her. Okay? It's just a matter of when. We know something happened. We know she's somewhere. And I think that you know where she is.
We want to know where Nicole is. It's not an if we find Nicole. I want to know where Nicole is. It's a when we find Nicole. We're going to find her. Yeah. If it's within the next couple hours, within the next couple days, we're going to find her. Okay? It's just a matter of when. We know something happened. We know she's somewhere. And I think that you know where she is.
So I'm not trying to come off.
So I'm not trying to come off.
Like I just said, it's nothing against you, nothing that I have against you or anything. I'm just trying to do my job. We're all tired, trust me. I've been up early. I have little kids. They wake me up at 5 in the morning. I know you've been up for a late period of time, too. We just want, we got to get to the bottom, so I have to explore everything, okay? I don't mean any offense by it, okay?
Like I just said, it's nothing against you, nothing that I have against you or anything. I'm just trying to do my job. We're all tired, trust me. I've been up early. I have little kids. They wake me up at 5 in the morning. I know you've been up for a late period of time, too. We just want, we got to get to the bottom, so I have to explore everything, okay? I don't mean any offense by it, okay?
Okay. I'd like to continue talking to you about this. If you haven't committed any crimes or anything, then there's no need to get a lawyer involved. All that does is make things take a bit longer, and the longer it takes, the more likely that you could be in trouble.
Okay. I'd like to continue talking to you about this. If you haven't committed any crimes or anything, then there's no need to get a lawyer involved. All that does is make things take a bit longer, and the longer it takes, the more likely that you could be in trouble.
This is, this is just what we got to do. We got to, we got to talk to everybody.
This is, this is just what we got to do. We got to, we got to talk to everybody.
I'm not trying to get you to say anything. I just want to know what you know. And if you're hiding anything from me, I'd like to know that. I'm not hiding anything. Your guy's the cop, so I'm not the cop. I understand that.
I'm not trying to get you to say anything. I just want to know what you know. And if you're hiding anything from me, I'd like to know that. I'm not hiding anything. Your guy's the cop, so I'm not the cop. I understand that.
I'm not talking about Nicole. I'm talking about Brittany.
I'm not talking about Nicole. I'm talking about Brittany.
We looked at several cameras. She also described the woman who talked about the guy in the vehicle wearing a completely different description of clothing, too. And she described her as having a different hair color also. So that raised some concern is that you both said a little bit that was somewhat similar but was completely different. And that raises concerns, okay?
We looked at several cameras. She also described the woman who talked about the guy in the vehicle wearing a completely different description of clothing, too. And she described her as having a different hair color also. So that raised some concern is that you both said a little bit that was somewhat similar but was completely different. And that raises concerns, okay?
Because usually in some cases when two people are lying about something and they come up with a story, sometimes they may mess stuff up. And I'm not saying that you're liars, I'm not saying that you committed a crime, but I'm saying I have to investigate it to the fullest ability, which part of it does include asking you the hard questions. No, does that mean guilty to a person, anything?
Because usually in some cases when two people are lying about something and they come up with a story, sometimes they may mess stuff up. And I'm not saying that you're liars, I'm not saying that you committed a crime, but I'm saying I have to investigate it to the fullest ability, which part of it does include asking you the hard questions. No, does that mean guilty to a person, anything?
No, that's not the case. We've got to explore the timeline of the events. We have to explore who was around the child the last, and the last two people to see her awake, to see the child were you and Brittany. So that has to be something we look into, whether it's a difficult situation Okay. Nobody on the property has seen it. Look, we have to, we have to deal with this.
No, that's not the case. We've got to explore the timeline of the events. We have to explore who was around the child the last, and the last two people to see her awake, to see the child were you and Brittany. So that has to be something we look into, whether it's a difficult situation Okay. Nobody on the property has seen it. Look, we have to, we have to deal with this.
I'm still working on other officers and stuff. As far as my knowledge right now, she was not seen on the camera. Okay. As far as my knowledge now, we have an officer who just came in with a bunch of receipts that he just spent several hours going through. We have several people working on this. Okay. So we're trying to get everything figured out. Okay.
I'm still working on other officers and stuff. As far as my knowledge right now, she was not seen on the camera. Okay. As far as my knowledge now, we have an officer who just came in with a bunch of receipts that he just spent several hours going through. We have several people working on this. Okay. So we're trying to get everything figured out. Okay.
I'd like to continue talking to you about this. I don't. You know, I don't want to prolong this as much as you don't want to prolong this. The moment we can find the calm we had this over with is the best thing.
I'd like to continue talking to you about this. I don't. You know, I don't want to prolong this as much as you don't want to prolong this. The moment we can find the calm we had this over with is the best thing.
Correct.
Correct.
Which if you did that, then that would not be nice at all. But you wouldn't know me.
Which if you did that, then that would not be nice at all. But you wouldn't know me.
I'm not that person. Let's get off of that, okay? Because we're not going to sit here and argue that for the next... We have a kid that we're looking for. We have an 8-year-old child that has autism that we're trying to find that has been missing for several hours and we're concerned about her and it's getting very cold. And it's only going to get colder tonight. Okay.
I'm not that person. Let's get off of that, okay? Because we're not going to sit here and argue that for the next... We have a kid that we're looking for. We have an 8-year-old child that has autism that we're trying to find that has been missing for several hours and we're concerned about her and it's getting very cold. And it's only going to get colder tonight. Okay.
So the last thing I want is for somebody to call us in three days from now and say, hey, I just found a frozen dead kid in a gutter somewhere. Okay. So I want to know where she is. Is there anything on your phone that's going to lead us to where she is or her whereabouts or anything like that?
So the last thing I want is for somebody to call us in three days from now and say, hey, I just found a frozen dead kid in a gutter somewhere. Okay. So I want to know where she is. Is there anything on your phone that's going to lead us to where she is or her whereabouts or anything like that?
Do you have any knowledge whatsoever about where Nicole is and what happened to her or anything like that?
Do you have any knowledge whatsoever about where Nicole is and what happened to her or anything like that?
And you said only your nephew was awake when you got there to hang out with, right? Okay. And what's your nephew's name? You told us your niece's journey. You didn't tell us your nephew's name. Because I'd like to know who the kid that you met was.
And you said only your nephew was awake when you got there to hang out with, right? Okay. And what's your nephew's name? You told us your niece's journey. You didn't tell us your nephew's name. Because I'd like to know who the kid that you met was.
I'm interrogating you because I need to figure out this information. I'm doing the same thing with mom. I'm talking to everybody. I'd like to know your whereabouts to the fullest extent. That way, if you are involved in the disappearance of the child, we can figure that out. If you aren't, we can also give you a proper event line that explains all that.
I'm interrogating you because I need to figure out this information. I'm doing the same thing with mom. I'm talking to everybody. I'd like to know your whereabouts to the fullest extent. That way, if you are involved in the disappearance of the child, we can figure that out. If you aren't, we can also give you a proper event line that explains all that.
Well, this is how we're doing this job, and this is what we need to do, okay? So what's the name of your nephew? Jacob. Jacob, thank you.
Well, this is how we're doing this job, and this is what we need to do, okay? So what's the name of your nephew? Jacob. Jacob, thank you.
And part of that is talking to you. And part of that is getting all this information in as much detail as we can.
And part of that is talking to you. And part of that is getting all this information in as much detail as we can.
Well, I don't know what other predicaments you've been in. And honestly, that has nothing to do with this exact scenario. And in this exact scenario, there's stuff that's not lining up. In this exact scenario, there's a six-year-old child that's saying that you may have been involved in the disappearance of her sister. So that is something we do have to address.
Well, I don't know what other predicaments you've been in. And honestly, that has nothing to do with this exact scenario. And in this exact scenario, there's stuff that's not lining up. In this exact scenario, there's a six-year-old child that's saying that you may have been involved in the disappearance of her sister. So that is something we do have to address.
No question she didn't say disappearance of her sister. We're not going to get into the antics of it, okay? She made a statement, okay, and we have to address it.
No question she didn't say disappearance of her sister. We're not going to get into the antics of it, okay? She made a statement, okay, and we have to address it.
The little girl said that you were involved, so we need to address that. We need to see if there was any type of involvement. Okay, why would she say that she's afraid of you? Why would she say that you have a gun and that you would threaten her? Why would she say that you took Nicole?
The little girl said that you were involved, so we need to address that. We need to see if there was any type of involvement. Okay, why would she say that she's afraid of you? Why would she say that you have a gun and that you would threaten her? Why would she say that you took Nicole?
Is there any reason why there's bruises on the children? Right now we're asking you.
Is there any reason why there's bruises on the children? Right now we're asking you.
Because you also live there. You've lived there for the two to three months since they've been there. You said somebody's always home with the kids. You're home with the kids and Brittany's not home with the kids. So we have to ask both of you because it could have happened between the both of you. We're going to talk to the kids too. We're getting that information as well.
Because you also live there. You've lived there for the two to three months since they've been there. You said somebody's always home with the kids. You're home with the kids and Brittany's not home with the kids. So we have to ask both of you because it could have happened between the both of you. We're going to talk to the kids too. We're getting that information as well.
So I'd like to know, do you know about the bruises that are on Soraya?
So I'd like to know, do you know about the bruises that are on Soraya?
So when's the last time she got a licking? Was it within the last couple weeks? No. Yeah, because earlier, I think earlier, is it common to use corporal punishment? The licking, what's your, when you say licking, can you describe what you mean? It's literally on the head, pops on the head. Pops on the head, okay. Well, that's, well, she's got bruises, what, on her back?
So when's the last time she got a licking? Was it within the last couple weeks? No. Yeah, because earlier, I think earlier, is it common to use corporal punishment? The licking, what's your, when you say licking, can you describe what you mean? It's literally on the head, pops on the head. Pops on the head, okay. Well, that's, well, she's got bruises, what, on her back?
Has she ever used like spankings or anything like that?
Has she ever used like spankings or anything like that?
Never to that, nothing to cause any type of injury or anything like that?
Never to that, nothing to cause any type of injury or anything like that?
You woke up, you went to the store, you said it was probably around 11 a.m. because you usually don't shop at noon or later, and then you came back, and then you left to go to BP, you walked there, and then you came back again. Do you remember around what time that was, your first BP visit?
I'm just all over the place. Is it, say, between 1 and 6?
Between one and six? Still some daylight out? Yeah. Okay, and then you come back, and then you said you left again to go get cigarettes. Around what time do you think that was? Was it dark out, light out?
Still light out? Mm-hmm. And when you came back, was it light out?
So you left to get cigarettes, it was light out, and when you came back, it was dark?
Okay.
And which store was that when you went to go get snacks?
Brittany went to go get snacks at the BP. Okay, so you get back up to the cigarettes, and then Brittany wants to go get snacks from the BP. So Brittany goes to the store while you're home?
Okay, okay. So Brittany wanted snacks, so then Brittany left.
She took a lift to the BP? She lifted to the BP. Yesterday. Okay. So Brittany goes to BP to get snacks. And then she comes back. It's been about 10 minutes. What happens right after that?
So that would probably be 10 or 11 p.m.? Yeah. About how long do you think you were at Grandma's house for?
Now, when you get back around 4 or 5, did you notice that the kids were in their bed?
You weren't really like checking to see if they were there or not. You just assumed they were.
And was Brittany, Brittany was home when you did that? When you got in? Okay. And where was Brittany? Was she in bed or somewhere else?
She was in bed. Okay. And that's around four or five. And then what happens after that?
So what did you do while you were there?
So here's the deal. We just want to find the kid. We don't care whatever your lifestyle is. We don't judge. We don't care. You could tell me that you're a drug lord for some Colombian cartel. I don't care. I want to find the 8-year-old kid. That's it.
So the reason we're asking you all these questions and we're trying to get specific, every detail, it's not because we're like, ooh, what's Celeste doing? It's because we're trying to figure out at some point, This child has gone missing, and the best way for us to figure that out, even if it seems doesn't make sense, like, why are they asking this? What's this have to do with that?
Even if it seems crazy, we got to get it. And I understand, but we don't care about it. We want to know every specific detail for every moment that you went through in the last...
Like 72 hours.
And we want to know the same thing about your girlfriend. And we want to know, so that way we can put everything together and be like, well, okay, well, if Celeste was here, here, here, and here, and here, that's what she was doing. So we know that she's not involved in this or whatever. And we know that this and that's going on.
And then we can figure out what your girlfriend's doing from A, B, C, D, A, F, G, whatever. And then we can put everything together and we can figure out, okay, so where's the eight-year-old? What's going on? But in order for us to build this crazy picture, to be able to try to figure that out, we got to know everything. So, I mean...
God knows, whatever you want to do, if you want to go meet up with another girlfriend or you went over to this house to go buy a pony, I don't care. We want to know where you went and why you went there.
That way we can kind of understand what everybody's doing during these crucial hours where this child's gone missing just so that if we come back later and something crazy happens or whatever, we can say, okay, well, this makes sense because she was over here. This is what's going on. We just want to piece all that together. So I get grandma might have problems with your lifestyle.
We don't have any problems with your lifestyle. We don't care. Okay? That's you. You do you.
Okay, that's fine. We just, right now, we're just trying to figure out where everybody was. Okay? That's it. All right? We don't care what you're involved in, what you're not involved in. We don't care about your lifestyle. Okay? You do you. Okay? But we do need, for these few hours, to know exactly what happened, who you hung out with, where you were. That way we can verify all that information.
We can put the puzzle pieces together. And we can try to figure out where this kid is going.
And with all that said, what do you think happened with Nicole?
But sometimes there's no... So what do you think happened last night?
Did she try to get into it with you when she gets upset?
Now, had she ever run away before? Never, ever. Ever had any type of thing that were you thinking about?
But she didn't try to like leave the school or anything? She just got out?
So she wakes you up, she calls 911 as she's waking you up, you said, and then she goes outside and she went and checked the whole parking lot?
Okay, so that was one thing I wanted to touch on, too. So we've checked several cameras. There's a camera for the hotel. There's the car wash across the street. There's a bocce. There's another camera. We've checked all those cameras. We have people checking those cameras right now. They never saw her walking around that hotel.
Mm-hmm. So is there any reason why that's not happening? I don't know. I honestly don't see it. Is there anything that happened?
And they said the brown boxes were passed from the scene?
You said gray hoodie, red hoodie?
Gray hoodie. Blonde.
This blonde lady, have you ever seen her before?
So that's the first time you've ever seen that person?
Okay. Did you see where she went off to after she talked to you? No.
Now, has anything ever happened? Like, was there any type of accident or anything that happened with Nicole? Like, did something happen? Was there an accident?
Like, last night?
Has it ever gotten physical between Moore and you or Moore and Mom?
Now, another thing I do have to ask is on the side that something else might have happened, is there any reason something else might have happened? Like maybe Moore got hurt and there was an accident and we're just afraid to talk about it or something like that? Yes, sometimes she is like that. You'll ask her what's wrong. I mean, I'm talking like last night.
Did something happen to her to where she got hurt real bad? And we're coming up with this story to try to...
get away from that because we're worried that like with the police find out they're gonna think something else happened and we're gonna get in trouble like something like that because an accident happened say like she fell she got upset she hurt herself or something maybe she fell down the stairs maybe uh she back talked to you or back talked to mom or something and it got physical or some something happened to where she got hurt real bad and we're just trying to be like well we don't know the deuce we're gonna say she ran away because we don't want to get in trouble if something like that happened we do we would want to know about that because if it was an accident it was an accident
Okay, did something like that happen?
Do you think something could have happened to her and mom might have tried to cover her up because she might be scared or something?
No, but what I'm getting at is, like, do you think there's a possibility that while you were gone that something could have happened to Moore that hurt her or worse while you were gone and Brittany is trying to cover it up because she's worried about she might get in trouble from something? We would fight for our kids. So she would never hurt Moore or anything like that? No, never.
If something would happen to her, like say she fell down the stairs or something and she realized that she was not okay and wasn't going to get better, do you think she would still call us or do you think she would get worried that she might get in trouble because somebody might put the blame on her or something like that?
Is there any reason why... Is it Zaire? Am I saying it right? Zaire. Is there any reason why Zaire would say... Dad took her sister to the Batgirl Hospital.
Now that you say this place, what is this place? Do you refer to it as this place or do you call it? Yeah, this place. Okay, is there any reason why she would call it a back row hospital? Mental hospital.
Okay. Now is there any reason?
So why would Zaire say that she saw you take Nicole last night? Why would she say that you took her last night and that she's not coming back?
Why would I take Nicole? Well, there's a lot of stuff that's not making sense to us, okay? Mom's saying she went and looked all around the place and around the hotel. We have officers that have reviewed all the video camera footage, not just from the hotel, but from buildings that are around the hotel that can also see the hotel.
So if I were to go walk all around the hotel and hit up all those spots that mom said she went to and that you said mom went to, and then I watch that video camera footage, I'm going to see me walking around, right? Now, we didn't see her walking around. We didn't see any of that. So that didn't happen. Okay. We know that didn't happen.
There's no dispute about it because the video evidence shows that that did not happen. Okay? Me walking out with Nicole? I'm talking about mom walking around the hotel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she told us she walked through the parking lot. She did all this other stuff. And that didn't happen because it's not on camera. So we can definitively prove, based on camera video evidence, it didn't happen. Okay. Okay? Um...
When we first got into the story with you about where we're going and all that and everything, we had officers go to the BP and they gathered every single receipt for the entire day and evening. We got some issues there too. Okay. So between the two of you guys, there's stuff that's not ending up and there's stuff that's being said that happened that didn't happen.
We want to know where Nicole is. It's not an if we find Nicole. I want to know where Nicole is. It's a when we find Nicole. We're going to find her. Yeah. If it's within the next couple hours, within the next couple days, we're going to find her. Okay? It's just a matter of when. We know something happened. We know she's somewhere. And I think that you know where she is.
So I'm not trying to come off.
Like I just said, it's nothing against you, nothing that I have against you or anything. I'm just trying to do my job. We're all tired, trust me. I've been up early. I have little kids. They wake me up at 5 in the morning. I know you've been up for a late period of time, too. We just want, we got to get to the bottom, so I have to explore everything, okay? I don't mean any offense by it, okay?
Okay. I'd like to continue talking to you about this. If you haven't committed any crimes or anything, then there's no need to get a lawyer involved. All that does is make things take a bit longer, and the longer it takes, the more likely that you could be in trouble.
This is, this is just what we got to do. We got to, we got to talk to everybody.
I'm not trying to get you to say anything. I just want to know what you know. And if you're hiding anything from me, I'd like to know that. I'm not hiding anything. Your guy's the cop, so I'm not the cop. I understand that.
I'm not talking about Nicole. I'm talking about Brittany.
We looked at several cameras. She also described the woman who talked about the guy in the vehicle wearing a completely different description of clothing, too. And she described her as having a different hair color also. So that raised some concern is that you both said a little bit that was somewhat similar but was completely different. And that raises concerns, okay?
Because usually in some cases when two people are lying about something and they come up with a story, sometimes they may mess stuff up. And I'm not saying that you're liars, I'm not saying that you committed a crime, but I'm saying I have to investigate it to the fullest ability, which part of it does include asking you the hard questions. No, does that mean guilty to a person, anything?
No, that's not the case. We've got to explore the timeline of the events. We have to explore who was around the child the last, and the last two people to see her awake, to see the child were you and Brittany. So that has to be something we look into, whether it's a difficult situation Okay. Nobody on the property has seen it. Look, we have to, we have to deal with this.
I'm still working on other officers and stuff. As far as my knowledge right now, she was not seen on the camera. Okay. As far as my knowledge now, we have an officer who just came in with a bunch of receipts that he just spent several hours going through. We have several people working on this. Okay. So we're trying to get everything figured out. Okay.
I'd like to continue talking to you about this. I don't. You know, I don't want to prolong this as much as you don't want to prolong this. The moment we can find the calm we had this over with is the best thing.
Correct.
Which if you did that, then that would not be nice at all. But you wouldn't know me.
I'm not that person. Let's get off of that, okay? Because we're not going to sit here and argue that for the next... We have a kid that we're looking for. We have an 8-year-old child that has autism that we're trying to find that has been missing for several hours and we're concerned about her and it's getting very cold. And it's only going to get colder tonight. Okay.
So the last thing I want is for somebody to call us in three days from now and say, hey, I just found a frozen dead kid in a gutter somewhere. Okay. So I want to know where she is. Is there anything on your phone that's going to lead us to where she is or her whereabouts or anything like that?
Do you have any knowledge whatsoever about where Nicole is and what happened to her or anything like that?
And you said only your nephew was awake when you got there to hang out with, right? Okay. And what's your nephew's name? You told us your niece's journey. You didn't tell us your nephew's name. Because I'd like to know who the kid that you met was.
I'm interrogating you because I need to figure out this information. I'm doing the same thing with mom. I'm talking to everybody. I'd like to know your whereabouts to the fullest extent. That way, if you are involved in the disappearance of the child, we can figure that out. If you aren't, we can also give you a proper event line that explains all that.
Well, this is how we're doing this job, and this is what we need to do, okay? So what's the name of your nephew? Jacob. Jacob, thank you.
And part of that is talking to you. And part of that is getting all this information in as much detail as we can.
Well, I don't know what other predicaments you've been in. And honestly, that has nothing to do with this exact scenario. And in this exact scenario, there's stuff that's not lining up. In this exact scenario, there's a six-year-old child that's saying that you may have been involved in the disappearance of her sister. So that is something we do have to address.
No question she didn't say disappearance of her sister. We're not going to get into the antics of it, okay? She made a statement, okay, and we have to address it.
The little girl said that you were involved, so we need to address that. We need to see if there was any type of involvement. Okay, why would she say that she's afraid of you? Why would she say that you have a gun and that you would threaten her? Why would she say that you took Nicole?
Is there any reason why there's bruises on the children? Right now we're asking you.
Because you also live there. You've lived there for the two to three months since they've been there. You said somebody's always home with the kids. You're home with the kids and Brittany's not home with the kids. So we have to ask both of you because it could have happened between the both of you. We're going to talk to the kids too. We're getting that information as well.
So I'd like to know, do you know about the bruises that are on Soraya?
So when's the last time she got a licking? Was it within the last couple weeks? No. Yeah, because earlier, I think earlier, is it common to use corporal punishment? The licking, what's your, when you say licking, can you describe what you mean? It's literally on the head, pops on the head. Pops on the head, okay. Well, that's, well, she's got bruises, what, on her back?
Has she ever used like spankings or anything like that?
Never to that, nothing to cause any type of injury or anything like that?