Devlin

Oh, can we trust him in big matches?

No.

Only one way to find out.

Throw him in there.

Throw him in there.

And then you'll know.

And if he doesn't work out, the way we found out with Damien McKenzie a couple of years ago, even though he still gets runs at 10 for the All Blacks.

You'll find it pretty quickly if you can or you can't do it at test level in the 10 jumper.

I tell you what, and this kind of links back to eligibility stuff we were talking about at the start, and this has been floated for years, I think.

You know what would help with that competition as well?

Because you're talking about, he's got the Chiefs this weekend, Ruben Love, obviously he had the Blues last weekend, he's got the Crusaders soon, and I think the Brumbies are at a super round, of course.

But to start the season, there was the Enduro, there was the MP, there was the Reds, who were obviously a good side, but they ended up absolutely smacking them in Wellington.

What if, because there's a lot of really great Kiwi players who aren't starting, or even in a match day 23 for their Super Rugby side this year, some great Kiwi players,

who aren't even getting on the bench, were able to go and play for the Fours and the Reds and the Tars and all these guys.

There's two things to that.

One, guys like Shannon Frizzell and Richie Mwanga, if they were given a big payday by, say, the Waratahs, who have a lot of money, maybe wouldn't have gone overseas.

And then you also got these really good young players actually getting more game time and playing in a professional environment.

Oh, was this back when Daniel Card was playing?

And you had Dan, you had Colin Slade, you had Tom Taylor, all these really good players.

Wang was starting out around 2015-16.