Di Foster

No, I don't think you did, but I think you bring up a really good point.

And, like...

In terms of podcasts in New Zealand, you'd have to be sort of at the top of the game.

And so if you don't keep challenging yourselves, then the wave will break or someone will overtake you.

And it's not a competition, you know, but it's like, I think we talked about this two and a half years ago, like being good buggers and showing up as yourselves, like then you don't have competition anymore.

So I think it's incredibly important with the profile that you've received to kind of really, really ground yourself and not believing all the bullshit, so to speak.

Does that make sense?

And just really remembering that, you know, there are a huge number of New Zealanders out there doing an exceptionally good job in what they do with very little profile.

And you guys have profile, so it's like making sure that you kind of stretch it and make sure you do well with that profile.

So I think the profile is incredibly important.

Obviously, you play a profile game.

That's the game that you play.

But also I think the challenge that I would put to you is your particular industry is changing and will continue to.

And one of the things that we are lucky enough in New Zealand is that we have a tendency to follow trends from overseas.

So if the only advice I would give you is not to sit on your laurels with it.

Well, I think... Energised.

Yeah, because I think you don't know.

It's almost like...

You said you don't know when the wave's going to break, but equally you don't know how big the wave is.

Yeah.