Diana Walsh Pasulka

Yes.

Yeah, that's the hurdle that we all have to get over.

And the good thing about this is it really is just us talking.

You know, and there are a lot of people that are going to listen, but they're just people too.

Some of them have.

Yeah.

The experiences that are available through psychedelics that I've always wondered.

I mean the thing that has always struck me about the UFO experience, particularly the abduction experience, is that it always happens when people are asleep.

It always happens at night.

It either happens on the road when people are tired and it's late at night, or it happens like, why does it have to happen at night?

The universe doesn't give a shit what, where the sun is in position to the planet.

Like that doesn't make any sense that all these UFO abduction experiences would happen only when the sun is on the other side.

That's so dumb.

It makes no sense.

It's literally, it's such an egocentric earth centric perspective that,

And not even Earth-centric.

Hemispherical-centric, right?

It depends on where the sun is in position to the Earth.

For that to be the only time that UFOs come...

I was always like, this seems like horseshit.