Diana Walsh Pasulka

I wasn't even born when Hendrix was in his prime or I was just a baby.

When you listen to that now, it's hard to put it into context of how revolutionary that was.

And that's also the terrifying aspect of what government can do, because through the sweeping psychedelics act of 1970, they made everything illegal.

And they did it to squash dissent.

They did it to stop the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement.

And they did it to – so that they could arrest all these people that were involved in all these groups because all of them were involved in drugs.

And so they figured, well, this is the best way to just make everything – obviously, these people are doing acid and ruining our country.

Let's make everything illegal and then lock everybody up that does it.

And then you get the 80s.

And the 80s is like this confused child that was raised improperly, was then cast out into the world with a distorted sense of values.

that was expressing these values in some of the most clumsy and goofy art human beings have ever done.

Yeah.

Right.

They became ego-driven drugs, the worst kind of drugs.

Yeah.

The MKUltra experiments.

When you realize what the government was involved with and what they were doing, how they were running the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic and they were administering psychedelics to people in brothels without their knowledge and observing them and what they did with Charles Manson.

It's very well detailed.

I don't know if you've read Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos.

Have you read that?