Diana Walsh Pasulka

Insane.

It's insane because Tom is so detail oriented.

I mean, he's so crazy that he studied this one thing for 20 years, like really kind of like tanked his life, you know, and then finally got the book out there.

And the book is just holy shit.

Yeah.

Because it's what the facts, the absolute undeniable facts in that book, just those alone.

Forget speculation.

Forget theory.

Just the facts alone are insane.

They most likely created Charles Manson, most likely gave him psychedelics, gave him LSD, taught him how to mind control influential young people or easily influenced young people and get them to do horrific things and demonize the hippie movement.

Yeah.

Like what's going on right now?

I don't think they're as good right now.

I think right now they're baffled by this thing called the Internet.

I think the Internet threw a giant monkey wrench in propaganda because it made people so much more resistant to bullshit.

Yes.

And then when you see things like – especially coming out of the pandemic –

When you see how incompetent these people that are supposed to be leaders are and how foolhardy they are and how stupid their decisions were.

And then you just look at the undeniable transfer of wealth to the upper small area of the country that gained billions of dollars in wealth and how much it devastated small businesses and like –

Did you guys do this on purpose?