Diane K. Boyd
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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Sounds a bit like Timothy Treadwell in Grizzly Man. Very similar. It's the same deal.
Oh, that was amazing.
Yeah.
And the girlfriend, too.
What I'll say is captive wolf facilities, and I'm going to have many people who love their captive wolves, but captive animal behavior and wild wolf behavior have some parallels, but they're not the same.
And that guy doing this thing would never happen with wild wolves.
Yeah. And many people – I did part of my career earlier helping to try and keep wolves out of livestock. And we put out sirens and we put out blinking lights and – bought raw cowhide patches and raw hamburger and laced it with lithium chloride, which is a toxin that makes you violently ill right away. It's not going to kill you.
The idea being that these wolves would eat this bait wrapped with string and taste all this wonderful beef burger and taste the hide and then associate that bad experience of vomiting your guts out for 24 hours or whatever to the animal on the hoof out there. That's a great idea for how your human brain works. They just ate every bait we put out and there's piles of puke everywhere.
They don't think like we think.
Right. And that one guy rancher I was working with, we were putting out the baits, whatever. I did the sirens and I did what's called fladry. And fladry is – they used it in Europe in places like Poland to hunt wolves where you hang streamers down from fences.
And you start out with a really wide funnel in the woods and the hunters used to drive the wolves through the forest with people at the end with guns and they would see the flattery and it would be quite a ways apart, like a mile or two or something. And they wouldn't cross the flattery because it scared them and they get to the end and it's like shooting pheasants at the end of a cornfield.
So people have taken that idea. to try and keep wolves out of, like, calving pens in specific areas where the livestock are confined. It doesn't work well when they're out in free range. And it works pretty well. So I was out working with this pasture guy in northern Minnesota, and he had a long, skinny pasture. And I got highway blinking lights that came on at night in the fladry.
And he was so kind. This was a lot of years ago. It was just this young starry-eyed thing. So I stopped in to visit him, and I said— well, I know you had a loss, you got a calf. I said, have any, the wolf's been back. And he looked at me and he says, well, no, hon, they haven't been back. He says, I said, do you think the blinking lights are working on your pasture?
He says, well, I don't know, but I damn near had a plane land here last night. I broke up laughing. He broke up laughing. It was just like, yeah, it was a tough job. Let's just have some fun here.
But again, he didn't like wolves. I didn't want him killing his cows. And that was a common factor to try and keep them apart.
I believe potentially a decreased human tolerance. And the wolves don't have a learning curve. They're taken from one place and then, boop, they're popped there. Versus if they kind of migrate, they were down, they run this gauntlet. They kind of have to learn on the way to be successful to get there. They have to learn to avoid...
livestock pens or whatever they have to learn and stay a little more secretive. So that's just my belief that when they make it on their own, they've been smart enough to get there. Whereas when you just put them there, you're going to forever have people believing they don't belong there, they're not native.
I believe so, yeah. And so, for example, now we've got wolves in the—they were put into—a total of 66 wolves were put into Idaho and Wyoming, and another 10 were added to Wyoming for Montana. But it's a very small number of wolves. But now wolves have taken over Washington, Oregon, California. They've made a few, made it to Colorado. They're trying to get into Utah. A few have been shot there.
And all those wolves came from this introduced population, some from Montana. But they'll never be considered native.
And the wolves that were taken for the sources, like I explained earlier, they're taken from an area that wolves from Glacier Park walk to. They are one population, but there's a belief socially because they were put there. They're not native. They're Canadian super wolves. And I've heard the crazy stories like these wolves weigh 175 pounds and they were selected out of all the wolves captured.
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