Diane K. Boyd
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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And they did change a bit.
He could pet its head. I'm sure he probably can. He or somebody before him had probably food condition it to be accepting.
Maybe just never seen a human.
Of course. Mr. Treadwell was not really in the bell curve on the big high point in the normal range either of normal behavior. Right.
They're really unique. And they're also, they really adapt well to people. They live in agricultural areas. I've got them done. I mean, we see them all the time now. They're a different animal than a coyote or a wolf.
You don't see that a lot with wolves.
It's kind of interesting to think about the early relation of people with wolves. I talk about that in A Woman Among Wolves, my book, is there was a couple of paleontologists or sociologists that speculated, and I can't say if their theory is correct or not, but they speculated that when people were still living in caves and having spears and atlatls, that they would watch.
So people were living in a family group in a pack. The wolves were living in a family group or a pack. They would watch the wolves chasing through a herd of whatever animal they were at that time, depending on where they lived. And eventually... Getting one tired enough, or maybe it was a cripple had a bad language. They would surround it and eventually kill it.
And then they speculate that the humans would learn that, you know what, we can go up to that killed oryx or whatever they had just killed, the primitive horse. And just drive those wolves away. We got tools. We can kill the wolves if we have to. So then it changed to where maybe those wolves had come around when the animal was cornered, but not dead.
And the humans would come in and do the final blows and drive the wolves away and take what meat they wanted and then leave. And the wolves could then come in and get the spoils of all the work that they had done that the humans had taken. And this is their theory, that there was this relationship between
Just because it's a brutal world, not synergy and not altruistic and not, oh, aren't this cute? Just like, hey, people, look at those wolves got an animal, a camel cornered over there. Let's go kill it. Take what we need. Wolves would come in. And that that sort of began potentially the process of wolves and people beginning to interact.
I hate to hesitate to use the word collaborate, but collaborate.
This is an idea.
Yes.
There's many ideas about how dogs... Over time. Right. The ones who were least afraid hung around.
Yes.
Yeah, and then people would grab one of those wolves or let them hang around, and then they would clean up the offal around the camp and whatever. There's many ideas. Of course, nobody knows. But what is kind of known is the dates from DNA and carbon dating, the dates at which humans were able to domesticate livestock and the dates at which humans were able to domesticate dogs from wolves.
And domesticating dogs preceded livestock. Livestock was like 11,000 years ago, roughly, of all species, swine, horses, cows, whatever, sheep.
And no livestock. No livestock. Exactly, because it hadn't happened yet.
So there would be more opportunity, potentially, for these animals... Again, I'm not saying it was to help each other so much, but they took advantage of each other's strengths and weaknesses. The wolf's strength was being able to hunt, run something down. It's also tired that people didn't do that. And then people say, oh yeah, that thing's crippled over there.
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