Dianne Penn

speaker

606 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 26 Jul

Dianne Penn’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

Trend

recordings per month · last 12 months

Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 1 in all, peaking in Jul 2026 with 1.

Appearances

newest first · ▶ plays the moment

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn · 26 Jul 2026 podcast

standardize it in a way that can be consumable for researchers.

I think so.

I also think it's something I've talked to other PMs at other companies about, and I think it's also more and more of the skill set more broadly.

Because a lot of the products that we're building is at the intersection of models with harnesses, with a set of contacts, for a set of users.

And so having things like evals actually is a way not just for...

folks working on models, but generally within product, to get to better user experiences.

Because you can't improve what you can't measure.

And a lot of this is very still tactile based.

It's still very judgment based.

And so you have to stay close to the details.

We are, we do.

I think when there's a very defined problem, I think things like evals might be almost a shorthand.

I think there's other cases where PRDs are really valuable.

PRDs are great vehicles for getting a very large group of people aligned on a set of sources of truth about experience and set of goals.

So when we do have a model, we actually, for every model, we do have a PRD.

less necessarily for our researchers, but more for our growing product surfaces, for our engineering teams, for our stakeholders like legal and safety and others as just a source of truth of putting together what we're aiming to achieve so that a big group of people can row in the same direction.

The other place where I do think PRDs are valuable are on the more ambiguous problems and opportunities, right?

So if we haven't shipped a thing like computer use, we don't necessarily have a set of like user specific pain points always.

And I think there's value in the product vision portions of a PRD to explore what could, even if a technology is not yet

ready to work for everyone.

Showing 301–320 of 606 · page 16 of 31