Dianne Penn

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn · 26 Jul 2026 podcast

I think part of the joy comes from seeing other people discover use cases too.

And so maybe one idea here would be pairing with somebody who is excited and seeing what

on a use case that you care about and working together versus identifying or trying to figure out the perfect use case yourself.

Because that might feel like work.

Working with others feels like joy a lot of the time.

And is there more that we could do to bring that, bring other people along?

That's something like a lot of times internally we have somebody who is like very curious and them sharing an idea of a new prototype actually brings a ton more people who are like, oh, I didn't know this could work now with Claude.

And so there's just some virtuous cycles here and ways of, yeah, continue to have joy with this technology.

Yeah, I think it gets hard in that there's so many different things that you could try.

And so you just like narrowing in on either pairing with someone, working with somebody who, who is, who have a lot of joy about this technology or figuring out something that you could immediately find value.

Like either of those things allow you to go deeper rather than like more high level about too many things.

I find it hard to keep pace with the number of prototypes or products that are out there.

And so my lens has been, how do I go deep in one to two of them myself?

Yeah.

It's how do you go from this being a check the box, right?

And so like us as product people, it's then a exercise of product prioritization of your time and your energy.

And if the goal is to experiment with joy, then how do you, what are the inputs that you need for that?

But yeah, I think a lot of the, I think the secret sauce of Anthropic is the culture and the bottoms of nature of how people work and this like experimenting in public.

And by doing that, it's very much about how to bring other people along.

That ends up being, I think, really valuable.

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