Dianne Penn

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn · 26 Jul 2026 podcast

The thing that we really try to emphasize within the teams is, especially right now, there are so many things that could be built.

What does it mean then to have a discontinuous SPED?

I think one approach that we're taking this year is it can be very strongly held opinion about the theme or the area.

and then more weakly held about the exact prototype.

And so there is a culture of experimentation.

There's a lot of the bottoms up, like engineers on the team are very self-enabled, self-driven to test out different ideas.

And sometimes we have a thesis and it might not work yet.

And so we then might revisit it in one to two model generations.

And so this idea of like these prototypes

that actually end up just helping us learn, like that's also valuable, even if it doesn't lead to something immediately shipping.

And so I think that allows the incubation and like the charter of labs to really accelerate and see around corners more broadly for anthropic.

I think the team culture, like similar to broadly at Anthropic, I think the team culture is very valuable.

I think Ben sets an incredible vision and pushes people to think about the 10x, 100x of the idea.

And, you know, the pods within labs is small.

Sometimes these ideas start with one engineer, right?

And I think

Sometimes when there's almost really large teams pursuing very ambiguous, large ideas, you end up actually being slowed down because of that.

So I think it's culture.

I think we actually also select for culture.

folks who actually want to do that zero to one experimentation and it's not easy there's a lot of bets that we end up turning down or turning off um and maybe you know we revisit them in the future uh but that's hard that's hard when you pour your heart and soul you're acting as a founder for a bet and it's not working yet um so i think it's like that type of selecting for that type of

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