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With that said, exogenous ketone supplementation tends to lower blood glucose independent of carbohydrate restriction.
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Well, that's what I originally thought.
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Actually, I do remember talking with Dr. Veach about this, and his opinion was that you're enhancing insulin sensitivity and facilitating glucose disposal by virtue of enhancing insulin sensitivity.
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But I think it's a combination of different factors.
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I think consuming exogenous ketones influences the liver in ways that we don't understand.
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So the next big project that I want to do is liver metabolomics.
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giving exogenous ketones because the liver is the master regulator of metabolism, especially in the context of everything, really everything that we study.
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So what I think is happening is that it's decreasing gluconeogenesis, decreasing glycogenolysis, and also simultaneously enhancing insulin sensitivity for greater glucose disposal.
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However, if ketones get too high, then you have competition.
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The tissues are basically
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happy with ketones and they probably decrease glucose consumption to some extent.
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So an important message that I want to send is that higher ketones are not advantageous and I think potentially very problematic.
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We've killed quite a bit of animals inadvertently in early studies by putting them into ketoacidosis with
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different ketone esters.
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We've never done that with ketone salts, although we can achieve therapeutic ketosis with ketone salts or MCT.
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So high ketosis would be in animals.
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Once we get above six or seven, then they start sort of like hyperventilating.
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They get sluggish and sometimes we can't bring them back.
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So that has made me a bit scared about some of the ketone esters.
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And I think some of them could be in the bucket of a drug, especially if used in pediatric population.