Don Cheadle

In many ways.

In so many ways.

I have come out of the strange.

Yeah.

And to recoup and... All of that.

And I feel like every time it happens also, I don't know, maybe that's my own sort of naivete or whatever, but like when it happens, when you experience it,

Everybody's like so grateful for it.

Absolutely.

And even to the effect of like the type of work that's made, I feel like often the things that come out of or pierce through cultural conversation are often so strange or feature a cast where you don't.

really know that many people.

Maybe you saw one person whose name you knew, but everybody else you don't know.

You know, there's the weird things.

There's the strange things.

But then that doesn't end up being the takeaway from like a structural industry standpoint.

Like the takeaway isn't like, oh, let's do more shows with unknown cast.

It's like, we really like cooking stuff in Chicago.

So not everything, you know.

It's all in the rear view mirror, right?

Yeah, and

And so I don't know.