Donncha O'Callaghan

You know what I mean?

Like people going, this is a great opportunity now and it'll be good for your profile.

And eventually you learn, no, man, you know what I mean?

I don't give a shit about that side of it.

Like this is proper work.

And if you value me and I'm good enough,

then, you know what I mean, we do it properly.

Otherwise, let's forget it.

People don't know the amount of work that goes in behind the scenes.

Like I used to turn on, like honestly, anyone seen presenting those kind of shows like you do in the morning or even listening on the radio?

That's why he did jump.

And it was funny.

Oh, I'm going to name drop now, but it's a good name to drop.

In that talk, I got to chat to Roy Keane and he was saying like he did that for a bit.

And then after a while, like I think his kids or his wife was coming up to him going,

Sorry, Pete, I love you to bits, but Kino's got dry weight.

That's what I'm on about, man.

That's because he actually gives a shit about Gary Neville.

Because everyone else just kind of gives a, oh, good on you, Gary.

You're a really busy man.