Donncha O'Callaghan

I kind of went straight into it, but I was very clear where I wanted to go.

If you know what I mean.

I actually remember sitting down, Tommy, and kind of going, I know this sounds nuts, right?

But like five year goal, three year goal, 90 days.

How do I look?

And I remember actually breaking it down into kind of even that.

And a big area for me, I remember, I know this on Zots and I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone else that's done it.

But I thought for me, if I'm still in a tracksuit here in five years time in around this environment, I haven't had the balls to stand out on my own.

I just thought I'm a team player and always have been a team player.

And I know I'm good as a team player.

But why not fucking test yourself?

Why not?

Just see, can you go on your own two feet and kind of... Now, granted, I ended up in kind of team environments, but they were not in the same area and stuff like that.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm interested for you.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, it becomes a drive, doesn't it?

but I don't know where are you suited to it I agree with some people and it's you're not I know you're not and I know I know Pete's right to do what he's doing because you know what I mean he'll kind of measure twice and cut once when it comes to it totally but

But what I noticed, Tommy, for me a little bit was I did jump and I honestly, like you, straight on the treadmill.

But then what I learned was like profile doesn't feed my kids.