Donncha O'Callaghan

Like it's just the buy-in for just what you have to do and that kind of game that we're trying to get into while you're in.

So yeah, the last few weeks have been busy, but it makes you appreciate stuff.

But it's a nice time of the year, isn't it?

Like school wrapping up and no homework around the place.

There's a bit of a buzz around it.

You know what I mean?

I know.

You want grey weather and stuff, but once we have the brightness, man, I'm away.

And the washing's ruined.

That's what happened.

It's raining.

The washing!

Jenny's gone up to collect them from school, so I had to leg it.

Good on you for saying that, because I think that's where we're losing, obviously, a brilliant rugby man, someone that's held dear, not only within our country, but around the kind of world.

And you see that with the kind of porn from people.

But just an incredible player on the pitch, you know, winning triple crowns and going on Lions tours.

But then that character off it.

And then the selfless acts, a bit like what you're doing with the charitable trust now.

you know thinking of the kind of next wave of players that aren't as fortunate as ourselves so yeah he's he's someone that'll be sadly missed and that's what you want to do you want to leave your mark on this and he certainly did it and everyone involved in his club and his family and friends were thinking of him like tell me 61 caps man back when it was hard to get a cap when you think of it like

Like, we were lucky we racked up a few caps, but that's because you're playing probably maybe close on 10 internationals a year.