Donnell Rawlings

They did one at Madison Square Gardens.

Like, it's a big thing now when you want to.

It's just like a competition.

Like, you got, I think they had cash money and no limit records.

But it's very, I don't see no white versus.

But it's a popular thing.

And it started because of the pandemic.

Also, even like you, you're an example of what happens when you finally realize that you don't need Hollywood the way it used to be.

And Hollywood is not like, it used to be, I'm a very old school guy, but I remember when I first started, you couldn't make it in this business.

You had to be in New York or L.A.,

There was no producers going to, they wasn't going to Toledo, Ohio.

There was no way.

This was big.

People wouldn't have moved.

They wouldn't have moved.

No.

And you brought a whole community here.

This place was always big for music or whatever, but there's no way anybody can not agree with what you did and what you made it appealing to a lot of people is that you could go somewhere else, get a better quality of life.

and everything.

It was the case.