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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2455 - Donnell Rawlings

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the initial thoughts on diet and aging?

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The Joe Rogan Experience.

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Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

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Red meat? It's unfortunate. In any form? You know, like, I know it's weird. If I eat a burger... It's different if I eat a steak. Steak is a problem? Yeah, I don't know if my digestive system, just like you two older fucking... How old are you? I'm 58. I'm 58 too.

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I eat mostly meat. I don't think it's age. What is it then? Well, what are you eating it with? Tito's. We rolling? Tito's. Tito's vodka? It can't be that, right?

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No. I'm eating a steak and I wash it down. You just eat a steak with Tito's? And I wash it down with Tito's and tonic because it resembles H2O so much. Sometimes I get thrown off until I do it. What?

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Tito's and tonic resembles water? The look of it. The look of it. It's clear. That's all that matters to you?

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Yeah. I know at some point I need to change my life. I'm at the age now that it's like I look at certain food and I'm like, oh my God, it looks good, but you know you can't handle that. I think this is when I really, really need to be in love. Because I need to be with somebody that understands when I go places and when I want to pick out, they got to be like, he can't eat that. Oh, right.

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He's going to sit up. He's going to be thrown up. You need a female handler. A female handler. They call it geriatric. This is what I hear. This is what the streets are saying. Most men get to an age, it's a geriatric shit.

Chapter 2: How does alcohol consumption relate to dietary choices?

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Is there any particular reason, Joe, and I haven't been here in a while. Is there any particular reason why I am doing your show during Black History Month? No, you asked to come on. You reached out to me. I reached out to you.

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You could have reached out to me in July. I would have said yes.

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You got an open invitation. You know that. I have an open invitation. But this is when, I don't know. I said, can I come through? You said, this is what you told me. You said, I have a guest. And then you called back. I don't know if Jamie said, you know what month this is. Right? I don't know if he answered. And you called me right back.

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I moved somebody. I moved somebody for you. Because I knew you were coming here on a Monday. I had someone booked. Was it a Caucasian person? I don't know. I don't remember.

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You know it was a white man or a black man. No, you know what? Did I bump a white person for black?

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Actually, it might have been Michael Jai White, because he's here tomorrow. Yeah. So it was probably Michael. I just probably moved him a day.

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But I appreciate you being accommodating, because I felt like it was time for me to come back. I haven't been here a while.

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You can come on any time. I really appreciate that.

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Whenever you're in town. I hold that to be true. Come on. I know that's true, too. You know I love you. Yeah. I want some of that gum, too, man. I'm sorry. The neuro gum?

Chapter 3: What are the implications of food choices on health?

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But it might just be what you're eating with the red meat more than the red meat itself. That's what I would imagine. I would imagine it's not actually red meat. I would imagine it's what you're eating with it.

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Might be. And I'm going to check into it. Because as they say in the streets, I'm of that big age when you have to be considerate of a whole bunch of things. So that's what I have to do. I have to do that.

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Do you exercise at all?

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A little bit. Usually doing sexual intercourse is when I get most of my cardio. Get your pushups in? Yeah. And it's not as strong. Damn, man. I don't know if this applies to everybody. You get to an age where you start looking at your history and you're like, damn, 2000 was my best years. Like right now, I'll just give up.

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You give up.

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I don't put no pressure. I give up. I start asking, like, what's your shoe size is or whatever. I'd rather go shopping than to really try to pound somebody out for three hours. I'm at that age now where I have. I call it certain times. Like, you going to get a good workout?

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I probably shouldn't give you that gum.

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That gum's going to be a real problem on the microphone.

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Is it? Is it? Okay. People are going to get annoyed with you. All right. I don't know what to do. Just chew it a little and spit it out. Okay. You'll get the effects of it pretty quickly anyway.

Chapter 4: How do comedians navigate the pressures of public perception?

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Reynolds adds ammonia to their cigarettes to maximize the amount of nicotine a smoker receives, with the result that American Spirits contains significantly more free-based nicotine than other major cigarette brands.

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So you're actually getting high off of cigarettes?

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100%. I get high off of them because I don't smoke them all the time. So if I smoke a couple cigarettes a week, it's a lot.

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And Newport's probably like 10 times worse than... Menthol cigarettes are probably 10 times worse... For you a body.

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I was talking to cat about that. Oh, yeah. I was asking him like why why do you like menthols and he's like He was speaking on behalf of the black community. He said we like things that are more potent and

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I believe that that's a possible part of it, but I also believe that back in the day, and this applies, I don't know if I talk about this, it was certain brands that targeted certain communities just for the loyalty of it.

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And I think Newport's was targeting, I don't know if it was a situation where Newport came out, they were spending more ad money with advertising and everything, because I don't know if I shared this story with you, but Pepsi was a company that did that, where they targeted the black community.

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So I think even though, I understand we said more potent, but I think it was something that was in our community, whether that was like cheaper prices or whatever. And I think it's generation and generation, like you need to do this because black people did this because it was cheaper. I think that that might be the case with Newport.

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Probably both. What is the menthol effect? What is the difference in the way menthol cigarettes work?

Chapter 5: What insights does Donnell Rawlings share about his experience in comedy?

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I think Dave Attell. Louis J. Gomez is on that too. I like him. I think Dave Attell is like, I think Dave Attell's ultimate happiness.

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is being on stage. Shut your fucking phone off, man. Put that shit on silent. Just put it on silent. Do you know how to do that?

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You don't know how to do that. Don't disrespect me like that.

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Put it on do not disturb.

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You know how to do that? It's okay. It's off. It's off. Okay, it keeps dinging, you popular motherfucker. I think some people... I think... My opinion, David Till, his comfort zone is fucking just being as incognito as he tries to be. It's just like, oh, I came up with this.

Chapter 6: How does Donnell view the evolution of comedy specials?

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I don't know anybody that turns over material. There's certain comments you look at, Joe, and you're like, God damn, this motherfucker's constantly trying. Yeah, always. Like when I work with Dave. He forced me to do that. Deon Cole is another guy.

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When I watch Deon Cole does like at the Hollywood Improv, I think maybe three times a week, he'd just have a Monday night and he'd just use it as a workout, right? Me, when I go into a spot, I'm trying to beat the fuck, I'm trying to beat it up. So sometimes I get distracted on what I'm really there for, this workout new material.

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There's a different level where you just like, you know what, I could deal with the silence. I could deal with something not working. And when I watch people like him, There's another comedian in LA by the name of Malik S that doesn't have all that notoriety like that, but when I see him, I'm like, damn, every time I see this motherfucker...

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He's working on some new shit and has the same passion. Everybody doesn't have that. That's why David Till will always give other comics something to try to achieve, because you ain't gonna see him doing the same shit. It's always a flip, and that's what makes him who he is, and that's why he gets so respected by so many comics.

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He's only focused on his craft. whereas some people are really focused on social media and promotions, and they have a guy that films them doing a bunch of wild things and edits with music.

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I've never seen so many comedians have full-out...

Chapter 7: What are the challenges faced by comedians in the current landscape?

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Production crews with them. Right.

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On an intro. I know. On stage. They think that that's what they need. You know, they think that's what they need to separate them. And it does get them attention. But what it takes away, it does draw some focus away from what you're trying to do, which is work on your shit and come up with new stuff where a towel doesn't have any of that.

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But with that said, it takes away, but then it also lets you know who the special people are. Right now, fucking my goddamn guy that serves as my pool and shit say he's got a special coming out. I don't know who doesn't have a special coming out. And the thing about it is like now, Joe, you know it. Specials aren't, if you really look at it, specials aren't special anymore.

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It's a weird word, right?

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Specials are a weird word. It's special. I got a new special. Like no other art form calls it a special. Like if someone like Taylor Swift puts out a concert video, it's a video of her performance.

Chapter 8: How does Donnell reflect on the impact of the pandemic on the comedy scene?

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You know, a musician puts out a video, it's that. It's like for a comic, we got a weird word, special.

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You know what special is now? When you get excited about special, if people still do that, it's who's putting it out. It's special people that do it. It's special people that are like... Sebastian, he's doing it special. You know what I'm saying? Fucking Tom does it special. It's special people where you know it's special.

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And a lot of them now, it's just people that's doing 45 minutes worth of comedy. No beginning, no middle, no end, no point of view. You don't know anything about them. It's just like the same way they do photo dumps, it's just like joke dumps. But I'll just say, and I'm not, people say Dave Chappelle's a butt plug. But one thing I could say, however you look at it. Dave Chappelle's a what?

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No, I'm Dave Chappelle's butt plug. I'm going back to, that's what people, you know. You gotta stop listening to what other people say. Joe, I'm second weighing into a story.

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Is it about Jamie wearing a Fonzie jacket? Hey! Hey!

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He's got them in all colors. He's got them in all colors. He's got a red, white, and blue one. He took it off before the show. People get so critical. But at a certain point, people evolve. People that, you know them a certain way, but then you're talking about a person who has a 35, 40 year career. People are like, well this last special so and so did, it wasn't that funny.

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But how often, how long are you gonna just be like rip roaring funny? Some people have a position where when they talk, people listen. And I'll look at, I'll use Dave as an example. If you look at all his specials, 20 years from now, right? You're having Netflix and chill day or whatever.

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If you play all the special that Dave ever did, you would know exactly what was going on in the world at that time. You know what I mean? You know what's going on. Some people put out singles. They got one or two jokes. And some people put out albums. He's one of those people. Sebastian is another one. And you look at, like, you see how his comedy is involved. People get older.

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They have different perspective on life. And that's what you have to fucking accept them for. But we don't do that. Right. And another thing, I don't know if this is prevalent in your community. And when I say that, your community is a lot of people.

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