Donnie

Well, you have more faith in the voters that they won't hold what you mentioned against him forever than I do, because I think they will.

And Ben's a first ballot guy, in your opinion, or no?

I do.

Yeah.

Will voters hold it against Ben?

His off-the-field issues early in his career, suspended for six, reduced to four.

Any of that, do you think, from voters?

Well, how does it figure in with Antonio then?

Those are the rules, but that wouldn't stop some people from holding things against guys like Terrell.

Terrell Owens was kept out of the Hall of Fame for years and years.

And Gary Myers told me that they are allowed to hold certain things against people if they think it affects the locker room.

No doubt.

So my question then still is, do you think voters will hold that against him?

Any of them or no?

Yeah.

I just, I just wonder what some of these voters might be thinking, but back to the, sorry to interrupt Donnie or keep going here, but I have another question.

I think Ben should be a first ballot guy, by the way, and I would vote for him first ballot.

You mentioned AB and holding, holding the on-field stuff against him.

Well, what's worse on the field than cheating.

So do you think Belichick should have gotten in on the first try?