Dora Drimalas

And what is it like to have different clients, not just one?

The new list was essentially the opposite of what my experience had been at Nike.

I wanted boutique.

I wanted to, what I thought was maybe spend a little more time on projects, which I got to do.

But then that was too long.

Right.

Like I can't a project that takes a year to complete is difficult for me.

I needed to go much faster.

So I got the opposite experience and I wanted the opposite experience, including city.

But it wasn't just for me at that point.

It was for Brian, too.

It was both of us had checked all the boxes.

He had gotten to work in different departments.

He had gotten to work on a skate shoe before Nike had a skate department.

That was pretty amazing for him.

But we worked through an interesting time when...

sportswear and collector culture was just coming into being.

So when we were there, what was being discovered was dead stock of inventory, of Cortez, of Air Force Ones, of unit dunks.

And that became sportswear, right?

That became collector culture for shoes.