Dorian Yates

It's so much bigger.

than when I was competing, but I would say purest bodybuilding is less people doing it.

More people going to the gym and doing fitness in general, but I think bodybuilding per se was more popular in the 80s and 90s, because it was all new, and there was,

Unless there was no CrossFit, there was no MMA.

You know, things have changed since then.

There was no fitness Mr. Olympia.

There's no, I don't know, they've got so many classes now.

So there's many more things for people to do than, you know, maybe they figure it's not worth it to be,

a competitive bodybuilder if you can earn an income online and not, you know, put yourself online in competition.

So things have changed a lot since then.

Yeah, because everyone's using juice, right?

You know, it's mainstream now.

When I started bodybuilding in the 1980s,

I don't think the general public really knew about steroids or, you know, they got a little inkling when Ben Johnson got a positive.

Now everybody's, it's mainstream, right?

Everybody knows about steroids and I think it's seen by males as a cosmetic enhancement, just like females put in blush mints or Botox or whatever they put in their lips and everything.

to make that change.

So it's mainstream.

You've got rappers.

You've got movie stars.