Doug Brunt
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 Dec
Doug Brunt’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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The book is sort of a biography, but it also turns into this Agatha Christie murder mystery in the last quarter of the book that solves the case.
I hold a grudge a little longer than you do, perhaps.
She's the longest. She and I are pretty aligned on this. I think, you know, particularly when it comes to attacks on you, I think you're pretty quick to shake that stuff off. I take a little longer, but I do view Steve Bannon a lot differently than I did nine years ago. And I think a lot of that came from an interview Trump did in this campaign season that you and I have talked about privately.
which I can't remember who the interviewer was, but I can paraphrase both sides of it. He was asked, why are you like this? Why do you behave like such a bastard half the time? And he answered, you don't understand. Nobody gets attacked the way I get attacked. Nobody faces as much incoming and oppositional bias that I face, and I have to fight it my way.
This is how I fight, and that's how I'm going to have to do it. And I see Bannon somewhat in that light now too. He's fighting these wars. I mean, look at the Stephanopoulos disgrace most recently. You know, he clearly knew the distinction between what was true and what was a lie. He, as the judge sees, deliberately chose the course of lying to gut Trump. And so he faces that stuff all the time.
But, you know, even seeing it in that light, you know, so I see Bannon more through a tactical lens than a personal lens. I saw it more personally back then. He did make a mistake back in 2015, 16. You know, when you had that debate question for Trump, the one that led to the Rosie O'Donnell flare up, that was a legitimate question. You know, you asked him on the woman issue.
Trump was about to get a year long hammering from the Clinton campaign on that issue. And any good journalist would have gone after it. And so it was a fair question. You hit every Republican on the stage that night. You hit all the Democrats too. And I can see how Bannon, because not only did he perceive you as an enemy at that point, he named you enemy number one and declared war.
And I can see how that went down. You know, he's he's fighting a war. He's got all these hot zones. And someone asked a tough question like that. The reaction is it's on. Now I'm coming after you. So I can see how it happened. But if he had taken a beat, he would have recognized you were not an enemy. You were a honest broker and a tough journalist doing the job.
And that at that time was a huge opportunity for him because the only places Trump could go then was either sycophants or enemies, right? You know, and neither was going to move the needle for him in a big way. You were the only down the middle fair place you could go to make the case. And he should have said, let's go make the case there.
Because the reason he correctly perceived that you are the most powerful voice in news then. And you remain that today because like if Trump does something stupid tomorrow, you'll hit him. And if he does something great, you'll praise him.
And that's why you remain, you know, it's, it's not, uh, I think he was right to, to find you the most powerful, but I don't think he was right about why it's not charisma or your oratory skills. It's your credibility.
Look, I get it. And listen, if if Steve Bannon hears what I said. a response you could have is I just had a better 2024 than anyone could ever have imagined. You're going to second guess anything I've ever done. You got to be joking, you know, and that would be a fair point. I just, I feel like there was an opportunity there to make the case.
You know, you were the one place where they actually could have made a case where millions and millions of people, you know, Because you will call balls and strikes, people know that what you say on this show is true. And if he comes on here and makes the case, he could say, look, there's plenty of people. There are plenty of wrecking ball opportunities.
This was maybe a different kind of place where he could have made the case. There was nowhere they could have gone. Really, everyone was in one of the two camps. Everyone was either Stephanopoulos. I mean, another thing that's so crazy about the Stephanopoulos thing Only by hair was he not moderating that ABC debate. Can you imagine?
I mean, it's always David Muir and George Stephanopoulos fighting behind the scenes for who gets the big political gigs. And maybe Muir edged him out by hair because he's never worked in the Democratic machine. But Stephanopoulos gets plenty of big political gigs where he's supposed to be a straight journalist. It could have been him. And you're right. Practically, it didn't really matter.
Muir, I'm sure, feels the same way about Trump that Stephanopoulos does. And I would love to see his text messages around the debate, you know?
So that is why, you know, Bannon is fighting. And again, fair point. He's like, he may say exactly what you just said and he'd be right. I mean, how can you question a guy who just had the 2024 that he had?
The other thing that people are talking about a lot now is how Trump was not... He won in 16, but he wasn't set up for success as well. And what if... you were not enemy number one, but they had made a case there because by fighting you, they did alienate a lot of people and they lost some support.
Among us, yeah. We're two of the most important, of course.
But if he had made a case there... Trump banning the whole campaign.
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